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re: Pitbull attacks, child dies

Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:58 pm to
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They make up 6% of the dog population and make up for almost 80% of attacks.


Not sure if he's still here but there was someone in this thread before I left to go to lunch making the absurd claim that the Pit was the most common breed in the US.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:59 pm to
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pit owners simply will not admit the dog has a mind of its own. actually all dogs do. and pits, DO KILL, and when they do they always say its the owner, not the dog. so i gave an example that i know to be a fact that police buy top notch dogs, spend top money training, and the dogs STILL bite the wrong damn people. I'm not saying pits should be eradicated, or police dogs. I'm saying its ignorance to only blame the owner.

PERIOD


Yep. I also know some people who are good owners that have a pit. They did a lot to raise it and train it to be good. They have another dog that is very well behaved and trained and wouldn't hurt another dog or human. One day their pit got loose and latched onto another dogs throat and nearly killed it. The other dog was just being walked by its owner and did nothing to provoke.

But, but, it's not the breed, it's the owners...
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:10 pm to
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Yep. I also know some people who are good owners that have a pit. They did a lot to raise it and train it to be good. They have another dog that is very well behaved and trained and wouldn't hurt another dog or human. One day their pit got loose and latched onto another dogs throat and nearly killed it. The other dog was just being walked by its owner and did nothing to provoke.

But, but, it's not the breed, it's the owners...



Maybe that dog was part of the fictitious .02% of bad pits that guy was talking abouta couple pages ago.
Posted by iwasthere
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:25 pm to

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Maybe that dog was part of the fictitious .02% of bad pits that guy was talking abouta couple pages ago.

Now who is making stuff up. I stated that less than .02%(this is a fact) have killed a person.
I can go off the other posters number of 6% of the dog population. When you use that number and not the 3.3% I used from your dog bites site, the percentage goes down even more. That is a much better chance than my chances of another human killing me.

Good day sir.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:34 pm to
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That is a much better chance than my chances of another human killing me.
Not if you live in Compton.
Posted by iwasthere
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:36 pm to
I might have worded that wrong.
You have a better chance being killed by another person, than you do a pit. Compton would be off the charts.
Posted by ATXTiger1
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:40 pm to
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LINK further development, or has it been posted?


It probably hasn't. This thread started as a debate about pitbulls rather than the actual tragedy.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:44 pm to
I know. I just thought I'd throw that in there.

I bet the pit ratio is way up in Compton so chances of survival are very bad.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:59 pm to
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That's a big arse dog!





This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:01 pm to
I see something like "Niko" walking through my yard, I'm dropping it.

Posted by ATXTiger1
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:12 pm to
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I see something like "Niko" walking through my yard, I'm dropping it.



You have every right to. I wouldn't want a large, strange dog walking through my yard off of a leash. That is where responsible ownership comes into play.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:22 pm to
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But, but, it's not the breed, it's the owners...



In all fairness it really is a combination, though.

The white trash/ghetto culture latched onto the breed, and backyard breeders crossbreeding them to be bigger, stronger and more aggressive while pumping them full of supplements AND not fixing them in order to breed them even more has just compounded the problem.

These people had TWO of these monsters, including one in heat, in a freaking apartment. Blame the breed, but this one is all on the owners.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:24 pm to
Pitbulls are the sweetest dogs ever.....until they are not.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:25 pm to
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These people had TWO of these monsters, including one in heat, in a freaking apartment. Blame the breed, but this one is all on the owners.


100 %. Ignorant arse people
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:27 pm to
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The white trash/ghetto culture latched onto the breed, and backyard breeders crossbreeding them to be bigger, stronger and more aggressive while pumping them full of supplements AND not fixing them in order to breed them even more has just compounded the problem.


I agree with you. Owners aren't the same things as breeders. The problem stems from a culture that bred these dogs to fight.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:29 pm to
I'm not a pitbull advocate by any means, but they really did used to be considered "Nanny Dogs" because of how loyal and protective are, plus they have a high pain tolerance so children couldn't hurt them.

They were also used as therapy dogs for the same reason



Nanny Dogs

Its really a shame what people did do them. They also get euthanized the most because so many of them end up in shelters...but even I likely wouldn't adopt one because it's too risky not knowing what it's background is.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by SthGADawg
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Shexter


my opinion has been changed of this situation since i saw this..i defended pits as a breed and still do...but this dog should not have been in an apt with a 4 year old with a bitch in heat...male dogs...any breed...lose their fricking minds when a bitch in heat is nearby...parents are to blame 100%
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:31 pm to
Yup, last I checked Little Rascals wasn't a horror film
Posted by iwasthere
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:32 pm to
With this dog in particular, I know it's history has been bred with bull mastiffs. It has a lot of Ghangis Khan blood in it. That bloodline has been known for breeding like that. Not for fighting, but for size. Pits are so readily available for trash, that it is too easy to get one. Then you just make it mean and breed the crap out of it. Sell the pups for 100 each to make some money. This trend with all dogs needs to stop.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:32 pm to
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I agree with you. Owners aren't the same things as breeders. The problem stems from a culture that bred these dogs to fight.


But because they are glorified by the white trash/ghetto culture, they then pay high dollar for them. So then when they pay $400 for their mean arse dog, they get the brilliant idea that they can just have puppies and then sell them on craigslist for $400 a pop over and over

And it repeats, over and over.

ETA: and this really goes with all breeds...Craigslist had made it too easy for trashy people to make money by "breeding" puppies.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:34 pm
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