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Philosophical Question: Ship of Theseus

Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:32 pm
If, through continual repair and maintenance, you eventually replace all the parts of a ship, is it the same ship your started with or a completely different ship?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:33 pm to
I am the observer of reality, not the vessel that contains it.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:34 pm to
What if you were never sailing on a ship, but on a name?
It’s the idea of a thing that’s important, not the parts.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 3:47 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I am the observer of reality, not the vessel that contains it.


That’s deep bro, is that a quote?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:36 pm to
This cuts to the metaphysics of sports: if you cut all the members of your team, and replace them with all new members, is it the same team?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:37 pm to
In terms of physical parts, no, not the same ship. In terms of symbolic meaning, then yes, same ship.

As Hemp pointed out, we are symbol using animals who see beyond the basic physical properties of existence.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

That’s deep bro, is that a quote?



No, I've just taken too many psychedelics in my life.
Posted by Tbonepatron
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

This cuts to the metaphysics of sports: if you cut all the members of your team, and replace them with all new members, is it the same team?



This can apply to countries as well.

It all depends on how much of a materialist you are.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:42 pm to
Depends on the answer if you're Herman Dooyeweerd, Heidegger, or Schopenhauer.
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:46 pm to
We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Depends on the answer if you're Herman Dooyeweerd, Heidegger, or Schopenhauer.



We gotta throw my baw Spengler in here as well.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.



As Kim Jong-un says:
“Rive, raff, rove”
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:50 pm to
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We gotta throw my baw Spengler in here as well.


Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:52 pm to
Is that Harry Potter?
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

We gotta throw my baw Spengler in here as well.


I’ll allow. TBH, probs could throw in a whole lot more starting with Plato.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Hope Seternal
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:59 pm to
So last month at the casino, when I saw The Four Tops it wasn’t The Four Tops?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:01 pm to
It was the Four Tops for you, pops.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:01 pm to
Wait til I tell you about Lynyrd Skynyrd.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:04 pm to
I am the master of my fate

I am the captain of my soul.

Now if we are talking planes...

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