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re: Pfizer final analysis shows coronavirus vaccine is 95% effective with no safety concerns
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:11 am to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:11 am to OysterPoBoy
Yea it’s not like they couldn’t do that with cell phone in your pocket or the SM apps you post to all the time,
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:13 am to LSU316
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However, to suggest that the pharma companies are somehow lying to the public about safety or efficacy doesn't make any sense to me.
They only have billions of reasons to obfuscate and tell half truths. lmao.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:14 am to jclem11
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They only have billions of reasons to obfuscate and tell half truths. lmao.
there are also billions of reasons for them to not tell half truths as well
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:15 am to jclem11
theyve already been guaranteed by the government and if they are to be found to be lying about all of this, arguably the single most important medicine in human history, they would be buried in so much shite the company would most likely fold
where is the upside to lying?
where is the upside to lying?
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:16 am to lsupride87
So you don't think it is a sound strategy to test the vaccine on adults before you test it on mass amounts of children???? Seems like common sense to me.
Well the facts state different but whatever you want to believe....they don't have much data but it isn't 0.
Why do you believe a company the size of Pfizer or Moderna would put out a vaccine that would harm children?
Regardless, not vaccinating your child is fairly low risk anyway so if you don't vaccinate your child it really doesn't effect the efficacy of the vaccine from a societal standpoint.
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they have zero real research on this virus at all as it relates to children.
Well the facts state different but whatever you want to believe....they don't have much data but it isn't 0.
Why do you believe a company the size of Pfizer or Moderna would put out a vaccine that would harm children?
Regardless, not vaccinating your child is fairly low risk anyway so if you don't vaccinate your child it really doesn't effect the efficacy of the vaccine from a societal standpoint.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:16 am to upgrayedd
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Large company on the cusp of making billions of dollars on product says product is really good and has no negative features. More at 11.
Settle down. The FDA will have the final say.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:17 am to jclem11
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They only have billions of reasons to obfuscate and tell half truths. lmao.
These billions are guaranteed in any case.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:18 am to lsupride87
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How many of those trial patients were kids?
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BIG
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ZERO
So why would any sane parent give their kid a vaccine with no research on them for children, with the virus itself poses virtually Zero risk to children.
Kids are different - I'll agree with that, you're right there isn't trials with them. Not even sure how high transmission rate is with kids, it's got to be much lower. But me, a 40 year old, I'll take it without fear. I work in biotech consulting and get to hear some cool behind the scenes stuff about these vaccines and all the doctors and scientists I work with will line up to take it.
We can vaccinate all the adults in this country and that'd be enough to stop this thing and convince a-hole politicians to open things back up, I've resigned to that fact.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:18 am to LSU316
quote:On purpose? They wouldnt
Why do you believe a company the size of Pfizer or Moderna would put out a vaccine that would harm children?
I am simply asking, what sane parent would give their 4 year old a vaccine with no research at all on the vaccine reaction for children of that age, with the virus itself is almost of zero risk for children that age?
Its a legit question to you
Its honestly a question to any healthy people under 40. Why would anyone who has millions of data points on the risk of the virus showing their risk is extremely minimal, take a shot with only 30,000 data points?
I am 1000% willing to take the vaccine when I can see more data. 30,000 just doesnt do it for me
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
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ts honestly a question to any healthy people under 40. Why would anyone who has millions of data points on the risk of the virus showing their risk is extremely minimal, take a shot with only 30,000 data points?
It'll have a lot more before it's available to young, healthy adults.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:19 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:21 am to CatfishJohn
quote:And if it does I will be willing to take it
It'll have a lot more before it's available to young, healthy adults.
As of now, I dont think the risk/reward makes "sense" for anyone besides those over 75 or those with serious underlying conditions
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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And if it does I will be willing to take it
As of now, I dont think the risk/reward makes "sense" for anyone besides those over 75 or those with serious underlying conditions
They've been open about the plan to give it to millions of those people first, and likely starting in a few weeks.
It'll be 3 months and a lot more data points before it's available to you I'm sure. You could even wait until Summer next year when hundreds of millions worldwide have had them.
I just need football back to normal next year. Please.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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As of now, I dont think the risk/reward makes "sense" for anyone besides those over 75 or those with serious underlying conditions
vaccines are always about herd immunity, not individual people though
I don't get the flu shot every year because I think the flu will kill me
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:26 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:Cool. Roll it out so all the scared fools can get this shite.
Pfizer final analysis shows coronavirus vaccine is 95% effective with no safety concerns
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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I am simply asking, what sane parent would give their 4 year old a vaccine with no research at all on the vaccine reaction for children of that age, with the virus itself is almost of zero risk for children that age?
As I stated the risk of not getting the vaccine for children approaches 0 so it is what it is. That also leads to the question of why would the R&D focus on a group that doesn't necessarily need the vaccine in the beginning.
If you don't get your children the vaccine because you don't feel comfortable that is fine.....promoting that fact to others as unsafe is a risky and dangerous strategy.
ETA Fancy this....if my child had Leukemia and had been cooped up in the house for 10+ months...you bet your arse I'd jump at the chance to get him this vaccine if his doctor thought it was OK. I'd have absolutely 0 problem with it.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:32 am to RLDSC FAN
No safety concerns...yet
Yet being the key word. Also at 95% effective, one would think masks and social distancing will still be needed according to government.
Not saying that we should shelf it, but people should be aware that this isn’t a magic bullet that will get everything back to normal.
Yet being the key word. Also at 95% effective, one would think masks and social distancing will still be needed according to government.
Not saying that we should shelf it, but people should be aware that this isn’t a magic bullet that will get everything back to normal.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:35 am to The Pirate King
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Also at 95% effective, one would think masks and social distancing will still be needed according to government.
Whether the govt requires masks and social distancing has nothing to do with the vaccine and everything to do with the power that govt can exert over the people.
At 95% efficacy one would think that based on science we could go back to December 2019 normal as soon as half of America get vaccinate if not before.....but I doubt government will allow that.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:38 am to LSU316
quote:Also the risk of a kid getting super sick from Covid is almost 0. I would most likely not give my kids this vaccine, plus they already had the damn virus. They have antibodies (yes in know the CDC doesn't know how long it last.).
As I stated the risk of not getting the vaccine for children approaches 0 so it is what it is.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:39 am to RLDSC FAN
Doesn’t matter. Not taking it to prevent a slight headache and losing my sense of taste for 2 days.
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