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re: People who choose to not have kids

Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Im about the only rational one here.


This is never a good look. It just isn't a good place to be.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11592 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:03 pm to
Pecker, for perhaps the first time ever, I am in complete agreement with you. New milestone
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58868 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:03 pm to
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Nothing replaces experience
empirical data trumps personal experience
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294979 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Trust is not required for information to be processed and determined to be of sound logic.



You go on brother and get high risk investment advice from your landscape guy, and run with it.

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138138 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Pecker, for perhaps the first time ever, I am in complete agreement with you.



You probably should get tested
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294979 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:05 pm to
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empirical data trumps personal experience


What kind of parenting data you have there, junior?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37468 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Trust is not required for information to be processed and determined to be of sound logic.

Just so I'm following, Roger's argument is that experience is a factor in determining the credibility of advice. Are you arguing that it isn't?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:06 pm to
TH03, no offense but I’m not taking parental advice from you no matter how good you think it is.

Just as you wouldn’t take advice from me on how to bag groceries or how to stock shelves.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294979 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Are you arguing that it isn't?


He is no shite
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Pecker, for perhaps the first time ever, I am in complete agreement with you. New milestone



It's a beautiful thing that's happened here in this thread.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82665 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:07 pm to
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There are plenty of parents who are not even remotely qualified to give advice on parenting, and plenty of nonparents who are reasonable and observant enough to have decent insight.


/thread

Seriously, I don’t get how some of you people live your lives in such a black or white mindset. That sounds horrible - constantly living in extremes.

Out of curiosity to those opposing .. What about behavioral therapists, child psychiatrists, physicians, teachers, principals, special educators, etc. who may not have children of their own? If your child is out of control at school, are you going to be the parent who refuses to listen to these people purely because they haven’t birthed a child? Or does working with them qualify them? And then where do we draw the line?

Hell, I was a nanny for two children for a year, which came after working in a childcare center for a year. I’m not a parent, nor would I claim to be all-knowing about children, but surely SOME of my observations would be correct, would they not? If not, how many years would your child’s teacher need to teach for you to listen to them? You’ll just continue letting your child cause whatever issue because the teacher isn’t a parent and doesn’t know?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:07 pm to
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You go on brother and get high risk investment advice from your landscape guy, and run with it.



Are we just going to do straw men now?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58868 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:08 pm to
There's quite a bit that most people on this board would throw a fit about, especially re: spanking
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19950 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:08 pm to
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But going against a biological imperative is surely signs of a mental defect.


My biological imperative is telling me to meet you at sonic and check them knuckles, baw
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171949 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:09 pm to
I don't give a shite on either one, baw.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21649 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:09 pm to
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asy years watching Netflix, going to Whole Foods, and keeping up with what their friends are doing on Facebook.


you literally just described 95% of all my married friends with kids.

the only ones that do anything interesting are the ones without kids.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 5:10 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294979 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:10 pm to
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Are we just going to do straw men now?


You have a cognitive disconnect here and you just can't see it.

Trust is required to accept unchallenged information. No one is saying someone can't be right, it's just they have no credibility to believe them.

More experience, more knowledge = more credibility.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37468 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:10 pm to
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He is no shite

Bizarro world.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:10 pm to
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Just so I'm following, Roger's argument is that experience is a factor in determining the credibility of advice. Are you arguing that it isn't?




Roger is arguing all kinds of shite that has nothing to do with what the original discussion was centered on. I don't care about credibility or trust. It's irrelevant to the conversation.


1) one doesn't have to be a parent to offer good parenting advice
2) whether or not you take that advice doesn't change the inherent value of said advice
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:11 pm to
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People who choose to not have kids



Are probably smart enough to know they'd make terrible parents. Kudos to these people. It's the stupid ones who go out and breed when they don't need to.
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