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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:05 am to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:05 am to
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So still fitting the same narrative for deaths outside of China, either elderly or directly from the area... honestly surprised nobody else has succumb to it.



May have and didn't get diagnosed. I doubt every country has done 100% coronavirus testing for every case of fatal community acquired pneumonia with no history of exposure. It's flu season and there are always plenty of pneumonia deaths. Plus, apparently there are a significant number of false negatives from some tests and not every case would be repeat tested if there's no particular reason to suspect Covid.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 10:20 am
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:12 am to
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An 83-year-old American is diagnosed with coronavirus a day after disembarking the cruise ship Westerdam along with more than 2,200 passengers and crew

So that cruise ship that docked in Cambodia let half the passengers off to spread around the world.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:26 am to
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So that cruise ship that docked in Cambodia let half the passengers off to spread around the world.


Exact reason why 5 other countries turned them away. fricking Cambodia
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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African preparedness:
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Two labs (one in Senegal the other in South Africa) are the testing labs for the whole continent. Four countries in the Ebola area have just announced they can run tests.

There are 10,000 Chinese companies in Africa and 80,000 african students in Chinese universities.

According to Chinese state media, more than one million Chinese nationals live in African countries.

There are also more than 80,000 African students in China, often attracted by government scholarships, reports the Guardian. A 21-year-old student from Cameroon was reported to have contracted the virus after a trip to Wuhan and is being treated in hospital.



The WHO said that they expect to see a surge in confirmed cases in Africa as testing comes online. Many African countries have allowed travel to continue uninterrupted from China.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:34 am to
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Not excited about this at all. We have already had 130 quarantined there and now another 400+. I wonder what hospital will receive any potential infections should a febrile pt arise?


We had military quarantine capacity set up for 1000 people a couple of weeks ago.

It’s better to do it now rather than later, as all that capacity is presently going unused.

Spreading out the load is the name of the game, which is why they told the other individuals they would have to wait.

What would you rather, tell them “tough shite you shouldn’t have gone on a cruise” while explaining to them that they can’t come back for a year or more?

Just let them comeback with community level infection is rampant here?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:53 am to
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Like weather forecasters, researchers who use mathematical equations to project how bad a disease outbreak might become are used to uncertainties and incomplete data, and Covid-19, the disease caused by the new-to-humans coronavirus that began circulating in Wuhan, China, late last year, has those everywhere you look.


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The key variables of most models are mostly the same ones epidemiologists have used for decades to predict the course of outbreaks. But with greater computer power now at their disposal, modelers are incorporating more fine-grained data to better reflect the reality of how people live their lives and interact in the modern world — from commuting to work to jetting around the world.


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The clearest sign of the progress in modeling comes from flu forecasts in the U.S. Every year, about two dozen labs try to model the flu season, and have been coming ever closer to accurately forecasting its timing, peak, and short-term intensity. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines which model did the best; for 2018-2019, it was one from Los Alamos.


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But while important, worshipping at the shrine of R0 “belies the complexity that two different pathogens can exhibit, even when they have the same R0,” the Canadian-U.S. team argues in a paper posted to the preprint site medRxiv. Said senior author Antoine Allard of Laval University in Quebec, “the relation between R0, the risk of an epidemic, and its potential size becomes less straightforward, and sometimes counterintuitive in more realistic models.”


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Using an R0 of 2.3 and serial interval of seven days, they project 300,000 cases by next week. If the serial interval is even one day less, the number of cases blasts past 1.5 million by then. But if the countermeasures that China introduced in January, including isolating patients, encouraging people to wear face masks, and of course quarantining Wuhan, reduce the effective reproduction number, as has almost certainly happened, those astronomical numbers would plummet: to 100,000 and 350,000 cases, respectively.


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Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
So should I fly to California next week or not?
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:15 pm to
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it just yet.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:16 pm to
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So should I fly to California next week or not?
of course not
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8592 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:17 pm to
6 dead health care workers among 1716 infected with Corona

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The impact of COVID-19 on healthcare workers became a little clearer today, with a Chinese health official reporting 1,716 cases, 6 of them fatal, as Egypt reported its first infection and Singapore and Japan continue to report a steady stream of local cases.


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Zeng Yixin, the National Health Commission (NHC) vice minister, said the number of infected healthcare workers is rising and that they are facing heavy and tiring workloads. He said 87% of the infected medical staff are from Hubei province, the outbreak's epicenter.

The number reported today is more than triple the 500 case number reported earlier this week by the South China Morning Post, based in information shared by Chinese hospital sources. They told the paper that at least 500 cases had been reported as of the middle of January.


So one wonders where the other 13% of health care workers live and work because 223 is a lot of health care workersif they aren't from Hubei Province.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8592 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:31 pm to
Japan: 6 new cases in five cities; Singapore has a "Church Cluster" LINK

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Local cases climb in Singapore, Japan
Singapore's health ministry today reported 9 more COVID-19 infections, all of them apparently local cases, raising the country's total to 67, the most outside of China, excluding the cluster on the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Six of the new cases are part of a known church cluster, and one is a contact of an earlier confirmed case. Investigations are under way into how the other two patients were exposed to the virus.

In related developments, Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong warned today that the COVID-19 outbreak could push the country into an economic recession and that the country was bracing for a "significant hit" in the quarters ahead, Reuters reported, based on comments Loong made in a Facebook video.

Elsewhere, Japan's health ministry today reported 6 more cases in five different cities, raising its total to 37. Investigations are under way into the source of exposure, though one patient had a close conversation with a tourist from Wuhan. Two have links to the Diamond Princess cruise ship, including a taxi driver who drove passengers from the boat after they disembarked, the Straits Times reported today. One is the patient who was at the same facility where an infected surgeon worked


This may be important for those who model Non-China countries with better health care.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 3:33 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:52 pm to
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BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 1,843 new cases and 139 new deaths.


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UPDATE: China's National Health Commission reports 166 new cases and 3 new deaths outside Hubei province since yesterday
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:39 pm to
Really only 166 new cases in the rest of mainland China? Meanwhile 70 cases were just confirmed on the cruise ship in Japan.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:21 pm to
We're about to learn how bad this disease is. After seeing china's actual reaction while dropping fake numbers for weeks, I'm very suspicious of everything.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:31 pm to
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We're about to learn how bad this disease is.


People have been saying that for the past 2 weeks, me included... Nothing has really changed.

What everyone has been expecting and waiting for has yet to occur. Very isolated growth.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:36 pm to
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People have been saying that for the past 2 weeks, me included... Nothing has really changed.

I hope this trend keeps up.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Really only 166 new cases in the rest of mainland China?


Before long the cruise ship will have more daily new cases

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With now 355 confirmed cases on the cruise ship, it means nearly 10% of those on board has been infected with coronavirus. Some of them are asymptomatic. Others are still being tested.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16825 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:55 pm to
How can they quarantine the cruise ship for just 2 weeks since someone can get it the 12th or 13th day?
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:56 pm to
I can't think of a worse place to be than a cruise ship with a contagious virus. You have very little chance to not get infected.
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