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OT Docs RE: pancreatic cancer
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:32 am
My Mother was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer on August 24, completely out of the blue. She developed jaundice, went to ER and was diagnosed within a day. She passed on October 3. It all happened so quickly, it is unbelievable.
Anyhow my siblings and I are wondering if there is a general understanding as to when pancreatic cancer may have started until the time it hits stage 4 or I guess in this case death on Oct 3. In other words if she passed on Oct 3 what’s the best guess as to when it originally developed? Thanks in advance.
Anyhow my siblings and I are wondering if there is a general understanding as to when pancreatic cancer may have started until the time it hits stage 4 or I guess in this case death on Oct 3. In other words if she passed on Oct 3 what’s the best guess as to when it originally developed? Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:34 am to LSUChamps03
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In other words if she passed on Oct 3 what’s the best guess as to when it originally developed?
Assuming an adenocarcinoma (most common) probably around 2-3 years from first cancer cells to liver mets, could be even longer
If your mom wasnt very old you should get genetic testing to see if you are at risk
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:34 am to LSUChamps03
Not a doc, just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss.
Cancer is a bitch.
Cancer is a bitch.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:34 am to LSUChamps03
Not a doc, but it's my understanding that pancreatic cancer is commonly not discovered until later stages as early stages usually don't exhibit noticeable symptoms and is really aggressive. I knew someone who was diagnosed but not until late stages (same thing, jaundice developed) and it was terminal. They were gone within about 6 weeks.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:35 am to LSUChamps03
Sorry bud, I know how that is. Unsolicited advice, but would recommend going to a therapist.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:36 am to LSUChamps03
My condolences on the loss of your mom. Damn, that’s tough. She’s in a better place and no longer suffering.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:39 am to BluegrassBelle
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pancreatic cancer is commonly not discovered until later stages as early stages usually don't exhibit noticeable symptoms and is really aggressive
This. It is why it is so hard to treat besides the location and why most people are only diagnosed at stage 4.
Sorry for your loss and my prayers are with you.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:44 am to Cosmo
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If your mom wasnt very old you should get genetic testing to see if you are at risk
Mom was 78, and the Dr suggested he wouldn’t be too concerned with getting a genetic test - but we did anyway. Still waiting on results.
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Not a doc, just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss. Cancer is a bitch.
I appreciate that, thank you. Having heard pancreatic cancer is a monster I can now confirm. The sudden swing from seemingly ok one day to death in 5 days was shocking. And watching the progress over the last days was very upsetting - very bad experience to say the least.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:47 am to Cosmo
Thanks for the responses. Keep close to your folks.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:48 am to BluegrassBelle
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Not a doc, but it's my understanding that pancreatic cancer is commonly not discovered until later stages as early stages usually don't exhibit noticeable symptoms and is really aggressive. I knew someone who was diagnosed but not until late stages (same thing, jaundice developed) and it was terminal. They were gone within about 6 weeks.
this is my experience after losing 2 loved ones to it.
you just catch it too late most often.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:49 am to LSUChamps03
We lost my mother-in-law to this disease 15 years ago. We were told at the time, that 90% of all people diagnosed with pancreatic cancer die within a year of that diagnosis. It has to do with the location of the cancer and the difficulty of early identification. It is basically a death sentence.
We are active with the Robert Reed Foundation here in Birmingham, AL. It helps, in more ways than one, to around other people in similar situations.
Sorry for your loss.
We are active with the Robert Reed Foundation here in Birmingham, AL. It helps, in more ways than one, to around other people in similar situations.
Sorry for your loss.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:54 am to Aubie Spr96
OP take some solace in the fact you didnt have to watch her suffer too much. The love of my was diagnosed with Stage 3 and lasted 17 months. It was hell on her and much worse for me. Not much is worse than watching someone in the prime of her life whittle away to skin and bones.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:57 am to BayouCatFan
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OP take some solace in the fact you didnt have to watch her suffer too much. The love of my was diagnosed with Stage 3 and lasted 17 months. It was hell on her and much worse for me. Not much is worse than watching someone in the prime of her life whittle away to skin and bones.
Sorry to hear that, BayouCatFan. Yes, I guess we were fortunate, if that’s what you want to call it, that Mom didn’t suffer long and we didn’t have to watch her suffer.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:13 am to LSUChamps03
That had to have been rough, OP.
I'm also curious why there's always late diagnosis of PC. I thought that doctors are often able to detect internal cancers through lab work showing elevated counts of particular cells. Am I way off-base with that? If I'm not, does pancreatic cancer evade that testing somehow?
I'm also curious why there's always late diagnosis of PC. I thought that doctors are often able to detect internal cancers through lab work showing elevated counts of particular cells. Am I way off-base with that? If I'm not, does pancreatic cancer evade that testing somehow?
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:17 am to BluegrassBelle
Probably had it longer than that
Did she have back pain or was tired all the time or eating issues, that was the sign for my relative, and she went to doctor several times to try and see what was wrong
She had stage 4 as well and died within 3 months too
Went to Houston MD ANderson after diagnosis but nothing they could do
She went down quick
The first month wasn't too bad but the last 2 months were hard
Only good thing is she didn't suffer long
Did she have back pain or was tired all the time or eating issues, that was the sign for my relative, and she went to doctor several times to try and see what was wrong
She had stage 4 as well and died within 3 months too
Went to Houston MD ANderson after diagnosis but nothing they could do
She went down quick
The first month wasn't too bad but the last 2 months were hard
Only good thing is she didn't suffer long
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:21 am to LSUChamps03
damn...sorry bro
if any consolation, sounds like no time for suffering or wasting away, but time for goodbyes
cancer is usually a long slow slide into the grave
if any consolation, sounds like no time for suffering or wasting away, but time for goodbyes
cancer is usually a long slow slide into the grave
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:23 am to mmmmmbeeer
Lost my Dad to this last year. It was a little over one year from diagnosis. They caught it early before it metastasized but it was in an inoperable location.
There are blood tests that show how aggressively the cancer is spreading but they are not used for early detection.
There are blood tests that show how aggressively the cancer is spreading but they are not used for early detection.
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Certain substances, such as carcinoembryonic antigen (CEA) and CA 19-9, are elevated in people with pancreatic cancer. However, blood tests don't allow for early detection of pancreatic cancer, because these levels may not rise until pancreatic cancer is advanced, if at all.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:23 am to LSUChamps03
Lost the best man I have ever known, my grandfather, to this in 2006. You and your family are in my thoughts.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:24 am to Cosmo
Are there any routine labs that could be checked with a physical that would detect issues? I mean I know liver enzymes can be checked so are there pancreatic lab tests?
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:26 am to tiger91
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Are there any routine labs that could be checked with a physical that would detect issues?
There are tumor markers but not really useful as a screening test
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