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re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by TaderSalad on 7/16/21 at 7:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Oilfieldbiology
https://theconversation.com/most-covid-deaths-in-england-now-are-in-the-vaccinated-heres-why-that-shouldnt-alarm-you-163671
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Simplemaaan on 7/16/21 at 8:01 am to Hoyt
Vaccinated by Mother Nature. Still hauling antibodies.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Obtuse1 on 7/16/21 at 8:08 am to TaderSalad
The article didn't support your position they fricked this one up, or did you not read it?
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by tiggerthetooth on 7/16/21 at 8:11 am to dsides
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Then why get it
Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Oilfieldbiology on 7/16/21 at 8:13 am to TaderSalad
From your linked article
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At first glance, this may seem alarming, but it is exactly as would be expected.
Here’s a simple thought experiment: imagine everyone is now fully vaccinated with COVID vaccines – which are excellent but can’t save all lives. Some people who get infected with COVID will still die. All of these people will be fully vaccinated – 100%. That doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective at reducing death.
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PHE data suggests that being double vaccinated reduces the risk of being hospitalised with the now-dominant delta variant by around 96%. Even conservatively assuming the vaccines are no more effective at preventing death than hospitalisation (actually they are likely to be more effective at preventing death) this means the risk of death for double vaccinated people has been cut to less than one-twentieth of the value for unvaccinated people with the same underlying risk profile
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Given the UK’s vaccination strategy (vaccinate older, more vulnerable people first), you would expect high proportions of the people who die from COVID to have been vaccinated. And that is exactly what we see in the data. The fact that more vaccinated people are dying than unvaccinated people does nothing to undermine vaccine safety or effectiveness. In fact, it’s exactly what we’d expect from the excellent vaccines, which have already saved tens of thousands of lives.
Not vaccinated, but not against those who want it, I’d just prefer to pump the brakes on all of this. It’s all happened within 18 months, and I’ve never seen a more blatant combined campaign by big business, media, and government to get a shot. It’s suspicious.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by TheFlyingTiger on 7/16/21 at 8:20 am to tiggerthetooth
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Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.
It doesn't.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by LSU316 on 7/16/21 at 8:21 am to TaderSalad
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More injected peopled died from covid last week in Britain than un-injected.
I don't believe that for a second. It's the same thing as the case numbers and the overall COVID deaths....made up bullshite.
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re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by tiggerthetooth on 7/16/21 at 8:22 am to TheFlyingTiger
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It doesn't.
Yes. It. Does.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by TheFlyingTiger on 7/16/21 at 8:25 am to tiggerthetooth
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Yes. It. Does.
No. Natural immunity is way better, longer lasting, and broader than a specific spike protein from these shots.
The vaccines are proving more recently to be in the 60's for effectiveness, not the 90 percentile that the Pfizer global marketing campaign initially used to sell it to you.
Good write up from Alex Berenson.
This post was edited on 7/16 at 8:50 am
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Robin Masters on 7/16/21 at 8:44 am to Hoyt
I’m not anti-vax but the incessant pressure to get it is strange.
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by dsides on 7/16/21 at 8:50 am to tiggerthetooth
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Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.
Works better to do what? Reduce the symptoms?
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Jake88 on 7/16/21 at 8:56 am to Robin Masters
quote:Not really. They did it with the flu every year as well.
I’m not anti-vax but the incessant pressure to get it is strange
re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID VaccinePosted by Jake88 on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Im pro vaccine, but I've not seen this. The vaccine only helps your body recognize the S-protein, wouldn't natural antibodies formed after weeks of infection be able to recognize more points than just the S-protein?
Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies
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