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re: Newly two-thirds of U.S. young adults unaware 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:10 am to REG861
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:10 am to REG861
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ok let's hear it, how have the evil jews held you down? Go ahead and let all your grievances out.
Gee, that wasn't predictable at all.
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:10 am to playmakers in space
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. I'd really love to see the poll numbers on how many US young adults are aware of that particular genocide. Or of the Armenian genocide. Or of the Imperial Japanese atrocities. Or of the various Soviet genocides. Or of Mao's atrocities. Or of the Cambodian genocide. Or the Rwandan genocide. You can keep going with this, of course. It all seems very selective and disproportionate.
FIrst of all, anyone who is so ignorant that they are unaware of (as opposed to in denial of) the Holocaust is unlikely to know of any other 20th century genocide. On the other hand, most people who are familiar with the Holocaust are familiar to some extent with the other genocides, despite what you claim. Any reasonably educated person knows about Mao or Pol Pot. Maybe the armenian genocide isn't household knowledge in America, but let's be honest - it had few if any implications on American or Western life at the time. Americans simply are more implicated by events in continental Europe than they are in Rwanda. You're trying to disguise your obvious anti-semitism by arguing that your problem is other genocides are disproportionately covered compared to the Holocaust, but it's not fooling anyone. Your problem is quite clearly the sympathy for the jews. And spare us your fake concern with the armenians and Tutsis too.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:11 am to Keltic Tiger
There's a whole new level of fricking retarded that comes with anybody who says the Holocaust didn't happen. As though the entire world collectively got together on the secret and decided to make up videos, build museums, stage artifacts, and come up with this gigantic story.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:11 am to cwil177
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Bro, this is your dad’s Facebook 24/7
I'm almost ashamed that it's just now clicking for me who you are
And yea, my dad is ate up with the TDS.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:29 am to REG861
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FIrst of all, anyone who is so ignorant that they are unaware of (as opposed to in denial of) the Holocaust is unlikely to know of any other 20th century genocide. On the other hand, most people who are familiar with the Holocaust are familiar to some extent with the other genocides, despite what you claim. Any reasonably educated person knows about Mao or Pol Pot. Maybe the armenian genocide isn't household knowledge in America, but let's be honest - it had few if any implications on American or Western life at the time. Americans simply are more implicated by events in continental Europe than they are in Rwanda. You're trying to disguise your obvious anti-semitism by arguing that your problem is other genocides are disproportionately covered compared to the Holocaust, but it's not fooling anyone. Your problem is quite clearly the sympathy for the jews. And spare us your fake concern with the armenians and Tutsis too.
At no point have I denied that the Holocaust occurred. I have not once denied that Eurpoean Jews were forced into camps and that many of them died while captivity. To lump me in as a Denier also sounds remarkably similar to another "denial" controversy that I am sure many of you have been smeared with at some point (human influence on climate change).
You also very conveniently totally ignored the comparison to the Holodomor, the real elephant in the room here. Likely higher body count than the Holocaust (debatable), happened in the same general time frame, happened to a European people, happened because of the insane policies of a totalitarian regime, etc. Yet it's crickets on that one. Curious.
And of course we have the requisite "anti-Semite" smear for message board upcummies to cap it all off.
Very cool.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:40 am to bucknut
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Kek. There was a documentary made about this camp a couple years ago. A geologist was allowed to dig the supposed mass graves to prove millions died there. The only bodies she found were Christian's from the 1400's. Oh she also found some ancient shark bones, but no mass graves of jews.
Link?
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:43 am to jlovel7
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That was about the last time we saw a truly clear cut battle of good and evil.
Are you forgetting the guy fighting on the Eastern Front who killed 10s of millions of people?
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:47 am to REG861
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On the other hand, most people who are familiar with the Holocaust are familiar to some extent with the other genocides, despite what you claim. Any reasonably educated person knows about Mao or Pol Pot.
This is not really true at all.
The Holocaust is pretty much the only genocide taught in school. And this is done for the exact reasons you mentioned. The Holocaust and WWII are just way more connected to American history in terms of impact and influence.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:58 am to RealityTiger
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There's a whole new level of fricking retarded that comes with anybody who says the Holocaust didn't happen. As though the entire world collectively got together on the secret and decided to make up videos, build museums, stage artifacts, and come up with this gigantic story.
Yeah, it's crazy, huh?
A completely biased and monolithic corporate media establishment, massive and effective generational propaganda campaigns, distortions and erasures of historical records and events, academic and journalistic gaslighting, and outright inversions of self-evident reality are totally incomprehensible given the state of the modern western world.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:03 pm to playmakers in space
Jesus
Get some help, dude.
Get some help, dude.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:11 pm to playmakers in space
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A completely biased and monolithic corporate media establishment, massive and effective generational propaganda campaigns, distortions and erasures of historical records and events, academic and journalistic gaslighting, and outright inversions of self-evident reality are totally incomprehensible given the state of the modern western world.
You were doing so well pretending this wasn't just another case of barking about "evil jews control the media." What a shame. There's always 8chan.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:15 pm to playmakers in space
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Yeah, it's crazy, huh?
A completely biased and monolithic corporate media establishment, massive and effective generational propaganda campaigns, distortions and erasures of historical records and events, academic and journalistic gaslighting, and outright inversions of self-evident reality are totally incomprehensible given the state of the modern western world.
Dude, all he said was anybody denying the Holocaust is crazy.
That’s true.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:16 pm to REG861
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You were doing so well pretending this wasn't just another case of barking about "evil jews control the media." What a shame. There's always 8chan.
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All of you idiots immediately play the "antisemitism" game without actually addressing anything.
You don't address the content of what is being said. You don't provide a counterargument. You don't provide any analysis at all.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:17 pm to playmakers in space
quote:Dating all the way back to 1945. Makes complete sense, right?
A completely biased and monolithic corporate media establishment, massive and effective generational propaganda campaigns, distortions and erasures of historical records and events, academic and journalistic gaslighting, and outright inversions of self-evident reality are totally incomprehensible given the state of the modern western world.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:18 pm to joshnorris14
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Are you forgetting the guy fighting on the Eastern Front who killed 10s of millions of people?
I loved Dan Carlin’s introduction in the first episode of Ghost of the Ostfront when he said, “ this isn’t a good guy vs bad guy story. This is a bad guy vs bad guy story”
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:21 pm to lsu480
Why does everyone insist that the Holocaust was merely burning people?
They worked them to death, they experimented with them, they buried and burned them in mass graves. Genocide happens, they happened before and they happened after.
We have witnesses from both sides, testimony from both sides, physical evidence, trials, convictions, interviews.
They worked them to death, they experimented with them, they buried and burned them in mass graves. Genocide happens, they happened before and they happened after.
We have witnesses from both sides, testimony from both sides, physical evidence, trials, convictions, interviews.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:29 pm to ZappBrannigan
quote:Exactly. So where is this universal super power that got everybody on board with it (starting in 1945)? Granted, there was no social media. People were different back then. The news media was of a different mindset. It was strictly AP style, just the facts, style. Injecting personal opinion into news stories was frowned upon. So there was no similarity to what was going on then to what's going on today.
We have witnesses from both sides, testimony from both sides, physical evidence, trials, convictions, interviews.
You want to talk about what's going on in the world today and how stuff is fabricated? I'll be right there with you. But the Holocaust in WWII simply does not even remotely fit the mold for that.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:34 pm to southdowns84
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Dude, all he said was anybody denying the Holocaust is crazy.
That’s true.
Apparently a few of you have real trouble with reading between the lines.
The comparison and examples were made to demonstrate how people can be made to believe anything is absolutely "the truth" given enough psychological manipulation and cultural pressure. Given how anti-COVID hysteria and anti-BLM this board is generally (which I agree with), I figured most of you could understand what I was implying when "trusting the experts" or the appeal to authority argument is not nearly as foolproof as you seem to assume. Things can be distorted. You can and often are being lied to.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:36 pm to RollTide1987
This is be design. If they taught kids about the Holocaust they’d also have to actually teach them about who and what the Nazis were. And if they taught kid who and what the Nazis were then it would be impossible to teach the kids conservatives are Nazis because they’d know better.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 12:36 pm to RollTide1987
They don't think all lives matter either.
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