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re: New toy for your travel ball teams
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:50 am to lsu777
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:50 am to lsu777
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you prolly think launch angle is a certain type of swing, exit velocity doesnt matter, pitching velo doesnt matter, weighted balls and bats are terrible and baseball players shouldnt lift weigths too huh?
No worries. It'll all pay off, baw.
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:51 am to Giantkiller
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LOL. BR has about 10-12 so called organizations who charge roughly $3K per kid per season, still make parents pay for gate and entry fees, unis, etc. All that to tie up you're entire weekend, driving to podunkville and not finding out your game schedule until Friday. Meanwhile you get to drag your other nonplayer kids to a hotel in the middle of nowhere to ignore them while Aydynn gets ready 2 hours before the 8am first pitch.
a) the organization is not the one putting on the tournament. that would be 2d, PG, USSSA OTC, etc and the tournament director. they dont get to decide how much those tournaments cost. guess what....little league cost to play and all star tournaments cost to enter.
b) if you are paying 3k you are paying entry fees. 90% of the ones charging 3k are not charging for unis on top of that either.
C) you find out game schedule on wednesday at the latest. so wtf are you talking about.
D) no team gets there 2 hours early for an 8 am game. 1 hour max.
and if your other kids arent playing so the frick what. I have 3. 1 plays travel, oldest did until this year and my yuongest who will next year. They run around and have a great time when they come with us. we take them to do things like go to a college game or to places like surge or top golf....out to dinner with teammates/friends....swimming with teammates and friends, go karts etc.
and you dont have to stay at a hotel. like i posted above, most tournaments are in town or within an hour drive if in south louisiana. or buy an RV....all the places that have tournaments have bad arse rv parks near by.
hoenstly you sound jeleous because either your kids dont play or you cant afford it. why do you care what other people spend their money on?
do you get that worked up when people spend 3-5k on a hunting lease? or 100k on a boat? or buy a camp?
you do realize your interest or your kids interest isnt the same as every other kids...right?
you should also understand....you are not making a high school team playing fricking rec ball.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:54 am to Giantkiller
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No worries. It'll all pay off, baw.
there it is. the OT gotcha moment thinking that every kid in travel ball is doing it to get a college scholly. trust me most people are well aware that there are 27 scholarship players and only 11.7 scholarships and they are not worth a frick. Most orgs require to maintain certain grades to even play.
understand that just because people spend money on something....it doesnt have to be an investment.
also you sound poor. understand some people make more money than you.....its ok pumpkin.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:55 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Found the the guy whose wife browbeat him to name his daughters Hayleigh and Baylee.
Once again, yep.
You’re like the third or fourth person to say basically the same shite. Why is it so hard for y’all to be original. Just TRY. I can promise you that a lame but original joke will get more of a reaction than the same shite y’all have been saying for a decade
This is my soapbox for the day. Come at me, bros
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 11:56 am
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:56 am to lsu777
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you should also understand....you are not making a high school team playing fricking rec ball.
Indeed. But there's really no guarantee you make one playing travel ball either.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:58 am to lsu777
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hoenstly you sound jeleous because either your kids dont play or you cant afford it. why do you care what other people spend their money on?
do you get that worked up when people spend 3-5k on a hunting lease? or 100k on a boat? or buy a camp?
you’re gonna get a ‘hurrrrr durrrr trucknuts’ reply next
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:59 am to Giantkiller
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But there's really no guarantee you make one playing travel ball either.
Dude, what the frick are you even arguing about at this point?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:59 am to Giantkiller
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Giantkiller
you have a genderfluid kid? or just not into sports? or just an old get off my lawn type?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:59 am to BluegrassBelle
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My daughter plays 8u travel and 8u rec. At travel she goes out and battles with good competition, the travel teams are fielding ground balls throwing girls out at different bases. They catch pop flys in the outfield. They hit actual homeruns on 130-150ft fields.
At rec she is the best kid on the team. She is the only one that can field a ground ball and throw a kid out at first. Most can't even make the throw from short stop to first. Half the lineup strikes out. She hits a routine fly ball to the outfield and gets a homerun.
We had back to back to back homeruns last night in rec and the ball wasn't hit past the third baseman
Where is she getting better?
this is essentially what i see nightly. league ball is a waste for the better kids by 8 except to get extra reps.
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I played travel ball (not just in softball, but also in soccer and basketball) growing up. I don't necessarily have an issue with it until it becomes this all-consuming, soul-sucking thing for the kid.
I had a client awhile back I had to sit their parents down and let them know that their kid was absolutely sick of playing year-round travel baseball. It was non-stop training, lessons, travel team. Kid had absolutely no life outside of it. And he was TERRIFIED to tell his parents because they had sunk so much money into it. Killed his love of the sport. Sad stuff.
Put your kids in different sports throughout the year. Increases flexiblity, mobility, and reduces overuse injuries by not consistently targeting the same muscle/tendon/ligament groups over and over again.
the good orginaztions only do 1-3 max tournaments in the fall and 10-12 max in the spring.
you have off
july
august
decemeber
1st half of janurary.
only play games in late oct- early dec and then late feb- june.
only play about every other weekend, practice 3 times a week with one of those being hitting only, and are extremely conservative with pitch count.
most travel ball kids play atleast 1 other sport. many play 3 or more.
and i hate to hear about situations you are talking about. you have to be careful with that and not every kid wants to put in that much effort and that is ok. not every kid is meant to be on a high AAA or majors team.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:02 pm to lsu777
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understand that just because people spend money on something....it doesnt have to be an investment.
also you sound poor. understand some people make more money than you.....its ok pumpkin.
It is what it is. I'm one dude. I'm not changing the system. This machine you've all built has to eat. All I'm pointing out is that it's abso-fricking-lutely ridiculous.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:04 pm to Prominentwon
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We played against a team a few weeks ago that had FIVE “coaches” in the dugou
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hes has learned 100x more than he would have if he was playing rec ball.
This is related, you know.
Rec struggles because of lack of coaches, because your 9U teams has 5 of them.
There's only X number of dads who want to coach, that number is overall shrinking each year, and 90 percent of them are in travel ball now.
So rec ball is all the poor single mom families with no dad around, or dad's always offshore on the rig, or dad's in jail.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:05 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Indeed. But there's really no guarantee you make one playing travel ball either.
you are right....but there is a much better chance that if you are playing high level travel ball at 13 & 14 that you will make a team. Sure as frick a lot more likely than if you are sitting at home not playing because almost no places have leagues for that age.
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Dude, what the frick are you even arguing about at this point?
he doesnt know. he knows that his "opinion" is wrong but doesnt care.....he beleives we need to go back to the rec system where kids play and practice 3 months then dont pick up a bat until the next season.
its funny because everyone thought it was awesome that eddy furniss had a batting cage in the back yard and used to hit every day....back when he was busting home runs at lsu. It was awesome he was so dedicated at a young age etc......now those same people scream about travel ball ruining baseball and then also in the same breath scream about kids sitting at home playing fortnite.
some people will complain either way. its either the parent is living through their kid or the parent sucks for not making their kid play outside
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:07 pm to Giantkiller
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All I'm pointing out is that it's abso-fricking-lutely ridiculous.
What did you point out exactly?
The only thing I’ve seen you mention is Coach Blake, Chad, and Brad having the best new trucks available
Which is completely fricking absurd
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Rec struggles because of lack of coaches, because your 9U teams has 5 of them.
or maybe its because
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So rec ball is all the poor single mom families with no dad around, or dad's always offshore on the rig, or dad's in jail.
the coaches that were in rec left because they got tired of the type families above treating them like shite and treating it as a babysitting service that could be used at your convenience and only showing up when its convenient for them.
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There's only X number of dads who want to coach, that number is overall shrinking each year, and 90 percent of them are in travel ball now.
this is because the dads that want to coach, usually put lots of time into their own kid. They realize the other parents are not doing the same and they seek out better competition and like minded players/parents.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:09 pm to Prominentwon
Picture of dugout mom please
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:12 pm to Giantkiller
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It is what it is. I'm one dude. I'm not changing the system. This machine you've all built has to eat. All I'm pointing out is that it's abso-fricking-lutely ridiculous.
what system would you want to change to?
1) the current travel ball system produces much better players than the rec system ever did.
2) why is it "abso-fricking-lutely ridiculous"? is little league all stars the same? whats the difference?
what system would you like to see? where is the tax revenue suddenly going to come from to support starting all these leagues? where is the parental involvement suddenly going to come from/
you havent point out shite to be honest other than how clueless you are of the level of high school ball and the jealousy you have of how others spend their money.
you have not answered one of the questions i have replied to you with, instead you just keep repeating its absurd.
great opinion you have there....glad its based on facts.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:13 pm to lsu777
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we have 9u kids throwing 55+ and 5 on just our team throwing 50+. there are less than that in little league 11-12 throwing that in the league we play in which is one of the better ones in the state. The good travel ball kids are throwing 70+ at 12u and pretty much all aaa or better pitchers are throwing 60+ and most throwing 65+.
And those kids are having surgery at 16 and dead arms at 19.
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ts not just about a money making scheme either.
I agree that for the teams it's not, but it's big business for U Trip and the rest. Otherwise they would not nickel and dime everyone to death.
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bottom line is the reason you cant just play littel league and then go play high school ball is because the high school teams are insane now and you are not making it doing that. Wanna make a HS team, you better be playing high level travel, be taking private lessons and putting in tons of work on your own and more then likely you better be lifitng weights by 7th or 8th grade....
You are right... but that is a self-fulfilling ideal. It's the ultimate keeping up with the Joneses.
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has travel ball been watered down....absolutely. But the kids have to start somewhere and that is what AA ball is for, to learn and grow.
Ok. You just played yourself.
No one is crapping on the most talented kids wanting to play with the most talented kids. We have had Little League all star teams, Babe Ruth all star teams, Dizzy Dean all star teams, etc for decades. Heck remember when rec leagues were divided into A, B, C?
But AA travel ball is a got damn joke. It is the white flight version of rec ball. It's rec ball without having to get drafted on a team that might have a poor, or a minority.
The kids playing AA today are not learning anything more than the kids who played B league rec 20 years ago. They are learning more than the kids who play B league rec today, because all the dads who coach would rather pick the 12 kids they want, rather than draft.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:16 pm to lsu777
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hose kids can still play league for free and if they are good enough can go play HS ball.
No they can't.
Because the HS coach is also giving private lessons on the side, helping the travel team on the side, etc.
Like another poster said, if you want to play HS ball, you better be playing travel.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:17 pm to lsu777
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i have ranted enough i guess, just gets on my nerves how the OT is always bashing something they have no fricking clue about and always talking about the money like its any of thier business.
The OT bashes on everything. It's what it does. It's a place to mock trends.
Sorry if your panties are twisted.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:18 pm to Auburn80
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lsu777
There’s so much to unpack there but of course I agree with everything you’re saying.
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Only parents who can afford travel ball see their kids develop. There are talented kids going to other sports due to the costs.
Not necessarily. If a kid wants to play, the guys in charge aren’t going to make a kid sit out because he doesn’t have money. I saw a video the other day, matter of fact. Coach got all of his kids together and put the spotlight on him because he works hard but couldn’t afford a new glove. Some company or some of the coaches got together and got the kid a new glove because of his attitude and commitment.
777 said that tourney ball is watered down compared to what it used to be and I get that. But it also a lot of kids that wouldn’t have played a while back to play against this competition that they need to that’s not available in rec. the rec ball that we all knew growing up and playing just isn’t called rec ball anymore. It’s tourney ball. It’s just a different formats on the weekends compared to weekday games.
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