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Los Angeles ambulance crews told not to transport patients with little survival chance

Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:50 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:50 am
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The number of coronavirus hospitalizations in L.A. County has surged 305% since Thanksgiving. Some emergency patients have to sit in ambulances for hours.
Los Angeles County hospitals are now so inundated with COVID-19 patients, ambulance crews are reportedly being instructed to conserve use of oxygen and not to transport patients that have little chance of survival.

The Los Angeles Times obtained a memo by the L.A. County Emergency Medical Services Agency that was issued Monday. It states that ambulance crews should conserve oxygen by only giving it to patients who have oxygen saturation levels below 90%. That comes following a directive last week that ambulance crews should not transport patients to the hospital who have virtually no chance for survival. CNN reports crews are instructed to attempt resuscitation for at least 20 minutes until the patient is stabilized. If a pulse is not restored or if the person is declared dead at the scene, they are not to be brought to the hospital.
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The Times reports emergency rooms are so full, patients are waiting as long as eight hours inside ambulances before a bed opens up. That means those ambulances can't respond to other emergency calls, including those not related to the coronavirus.
The situation is only expected to get more dire in the coming weeks. County health officials say what they're dealing with now only represents the post-Thanksgiving surge.

“We do not believe that we are yet seeing the cases that stemmed from the Christmas holiday. This, sadly, and the cases from the recent New Year’s holiday, is still before us, and hospitals across the region are doing everything they can to prepare," L.A. County director of health services Dr. Christina Ghaly said at a Monday Briefing, the Times said. 2021 tells 2020... hold my beer
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 7:51 am
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12035 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:52 am to
Fake news
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72848 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:53 am to
So lockdowns do not work?
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45037 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:53 am to
Remember when this same rumor was started in New York?

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It states that ambulance crews should conserve oxygen by only giving it to patients who have oxygen saturation levels below 90%. That comes following a directive last week that ambulance crews should not transport patients to the hospital who have virtually no chance for survival.

CNN reports crews are instructed to attempt resuscitation for at least 20 minutes until the patient is stabilized. If a pulse is not restored or if the person is declared dead at the scene, they are not to be brought to the hospital.


I’m not sure about the oxygen but that seems like that is a supply issue

Sounds more like a staffing issue in the ER than anything
How many Covid calls are dead on scene? Sounds more like wrecks & shootings
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 7:59 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
1589 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:55 am to
So closing restaurants, etc. didn’t work?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76102 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:57 am to
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crews are instructed to attempt resuscitation for at least 20 minutes until the patient is stabilized. If a pulse is not restored or if the person is declared dead at the scene, they are not to be brought to the hospital.


Seems reasonable
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98275 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:57 am to
percentages are SCARY.

this could mean an increase from 1 to 3, 10 to 30 or 100 to 300.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7561 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:57 am to
Why do these people always blame the holidays for every increase in Covid cases? It's always because of Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day and so on. It's as if we could have avoided this whole thing by just cancelling all the holidays.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
16987 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:58 am to
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lockdowns
harder
Posted by BuddyRoeaux
Northshore
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:00 am to
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16860 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:00 am to
New normal?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7561 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:00 am to
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So lockdowns do not work?



You don't understand. It's like Communism. They just didn't do it right.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:02 am to
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You don't understand. It's like Communism. They just didn't do it right.



And it was the people who didn’t do it right. Not the government.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:02 am to
Or 35 to 350
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48913 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:03 am to
Isn’t California on severe lockdowns? Clearly working.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:04 am to
LA and SF need a hard reset. A 12.0 magnitude earthquake would be a great start.
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33740 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:08 am to
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Some emergency patients have to sit in ambulances for hours.


That has been proven to be bullshite times over within the past 2 weeks.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23951 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:15 am to
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You don't understand. It's like Communism. They just didn't do it right.



And it was the people who didn’t do it right. Not the government.


Exactly. If/when numbers improve, it's because the policies are good...when the numbers are bad, it's because the people have been naughty!
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:19 am to
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So closing restaurants, etc. didn’t work?



Clearly we didn’t close enough restaurants
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1279 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:24 am to
the nurses need some time and room to make tiktok dance videos too
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