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Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:36 am to
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Solid 7 all day every day.


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Fit body, meh face, and a waist/hip/stomach ratio that denotes a below average looking vagina.


I guess you grade on a curve.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58495 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:37 am to
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Some thirsty mf on here for sure


Yes. The people who think she's a 7.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:07 am to
My son plays football for a school in Wylie Texas, one day we went to the Jr High field to let him run/throw which we do several days a week etc etc .

There was this girl out on the field kicking soccer balls, she was huge and it took about two seconds to see what an athlete she was, she was out kicking performing several guys that were with her.

After she left I asked the guys who she was and they said oh that's Sarah she got a scholarship to Vanderbilt.

It was this Sarah - I know "cool story bro" .
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38902 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:47 am to
Just because some guys can’t kick doesn’t mean they all can’t. My son could kick better than her, now, when he was 11. He’s 14 now and she could never kick a soccer or football as well as he does...and he’ll get much better.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:49 am to
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I mean, come on, sure it’s Vandy


What does that supposed to mean?
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:11 am to
Is she good enough to go pro in soccer , wish I could date a flame athlete
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:32 am to
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My son could kick better than her,


Your son isn't going to school at Vandy on a free ride
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 8:34 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:55 am to
Who knows what happens? Up hill battle to land at an SEC school, that’s for sure.

He’ll need to be a top five kicker in the 2025 class, not everyone recruits kickers every year.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66617 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:00 am to
what a petty shot
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:00 am to
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she was huge and it took about two seconds to see what an athlete she was, she was out kicking performing several guys that were with her.


I'm sure she's a fantastic female soccer player.

But I don't care how athletic she looked kicking soccer balls. An FBS-level kick returner would make her look like she has Down syndrome should she ever have to make a TD-saving tackle.

That's not an insult to her. That's simply how big of an athletic disparity we're talking about here.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 10:01 am
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14385 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:17 pm to
Matt Walsh article

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But what we’ve witnessed after the kick heard round the world — a kick which actually went only 20 yards in the air and rolled another ten before the return team bailed her out by jumping on the ball before it went out of bounds and drew a penalty — has been the weirdest and most unnecessary coverup job in recent memory. The now-fired coach claimed that Fuller executed a masterful and pre-planned “squib kick.” The head coach of the team formerly known as the Redskins called it a perfect “mortar kick.” Elsewhere it has been called an onside kick. The SEC named Fuller one of their special teams players of the week for a “perfectly executed kick” that “sailed 30 yards.”

Again, back here in reality, it was not perfectly executed, and it was not a squib, a mortar, or an onside. There is no designed kick in all of football that calls for a kick to boot it 20 yards to the sideline. And if there was such a designed kick, it’s not the play you’d call when you’re down 21 at the start of the third quarter. No, this was just a bad kick. Probably not much worse than what any schlub off the street would do, including myself, but not much better, either.


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One might also add that it’s a good thing the glass ceiling was only 30 yards away. Otherwise she never would have broken it. These would be harsh and mean spirited comments, however, and not the sort of thing I would ever say. Though I must admit, the temptation to ruthlessly mock Fuller becomes even stronger when you read about the half time speech she gave the team. From ABC: With Vanderbilt trailing 21-0 at halftime, Fuller decided she wanted to address the team. “If I’m going to be honest, I was a little pissed off at how quiet everybody was on the sideline,” she said. “We made a first down, and I was the only one cheering and I was like — what the heck? What’s going on? And I tried to get them pumped up.” She said she compared it to Vanderbilt soccer’s SEC tournament-winning run, when the team was “cheering the entire time.” “I just went in there and I said exactly what I was thinking. I was like, ‘We need to be cheering each other on. This is how you win games. This is how you get better is by calling each other out for stuff, and I’m going to call you guys out. We need to be supporting one another. We need to be lifting each other up. That’s what a team’s about,'” Fuller said. “I think this team has struggled, and that’s been part of it. “We really just need to build that team camaraderie where they can all lean on one another. It was an adjustment going from that team mentality where — hey, we’re all here supporting one another — and I just wanted to bring that to this team.”

I have never heard of a kicker on any team, anywhere, giving a halftime lecture to the team. But such a lecture from a girl who was invited there as a publicity stunt would be, I imagine, intolerable. It reminds me of the time when I put my five-year-old daughter on my lap and let her “park the car” by driving it 10 feet up the drive way, and the next time she was in the car with me she started shouting driving tips from her booster seat in the back. “Daddy, make sure to stop at red lights,” etc. At least that was cute. It would not be as cute to have the girl from the women’s soccer team strutting down the sideline barking orders. Although, given the team’s record and performance, I can’t say they didn’t deserve the humiliation.


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All of this patronizing nonsense surrounding a bad kick from a woman whose ego perhaps exceeds her abilities on the football field is merely annoying for me as a man. For women, though, it is much worse than annoying. It is patronizing, degrading, and insulting. Are women really so unimpressive and bereft of achievement that we have to treat them like we would a small child who draws a bunch of scribbles on a sheet of construction paper and claims that it’s a picture of a tree? We congratulate the small child for his bad drawing because we do not expect children to do any better than that, and because they are emotionally fragile and in need of constant positive affirmation. Is this the case for grown women? Must we stand and applaud and shout “great kick” when, in truth, it was a very bad kick? Are women so pathetic that we have to call even their failures achievements? Not just achievements — but historic achievements? Is that how sad and mediocre women are, that we must stoop to this?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:27 pm to
Matt Walsh...saying what we're all thinking.

He sums up my thoughts perfectly.

I didn't realize that people actually had the audacity to call that a "perfectly executed kick." WTF???

Notice that the TV announcers didn't bother to comment on the actual kick.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 3:30 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113855 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:37 pm to
When she was being interviewed after the game she was all like "I want to tell little girls they can do whatever they want. I can do whatever I want if I just put my mind to it" (im paraphrasing), and my first thought was "okay..well if you can do anything.. go play linebacker".

Look, I am not one of these "women shouldn't be doing this or that" type guys. But in this situation, a woman playing P5 football, even as a kicker, its a safety concern. What if one of these 6'5" 295 lbs fast mother frickers goes unblocked on a field goal and jumped up to block the ball and then hits her... But then again, I guess you can make the same argument about some of these small kickers out there.

Honest, I don't really care. Good for her.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:42 pm to
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half time speech she gave the team. From ABC: With Vanderbilt trailing 21-0 at halftime, Fuller decided she wanted to address the team. “If I’m going to be honest, I was a little pissed off at how quiet everybody was on the sideline,” she said. “We made a first down, and I was the only one cheering and I was like — what the heck? What’s going on? And I tried to get them pumped up.” She said she compared it to Vanderbilt soccer’s SEC tournament-winning run, when the team was “cheering the entire time.” “I just went in there and I said exactly what I was thinking. I was like, ‘We need to be cheering each other on. This is how you win games. This is how you get better is by calling each other out for stuff, and I’m going to call you guys out. We need to be supporting one another. We need to be lifting each other up. That’s what a team’s about,'” Fuller said. “I think this team has struggled, and that’s been part of it. “We really just need to build that team camaraderie where they can all lean on one another. It was an adjustment going from that team mentality where — hey, we’re all here supporting one another — and I just wanted to bring that to this team.”


Holy sense of entitlement. I'm sure this went over real well with the players. Reading this made it all so much worse.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113855 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:46 pm to
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She took a roster spot from someone better, just because she’s a woman.



Its Vandy. She could have legit been the best option. Its not like she is just some girl. She played soccer and didn't vandy win the SEC championship in women's soccer?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113855 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:47 pm to
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"She's cute when she's not trying to look fierce."

Only Trump can pull it off.


You think Trump is cute?
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4439 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Proving to be nothing more than a publicity stunt/virtue signal, she handled the second half kickoff and boomed it all the way to the opponent’s ~35 yard line.
They squibbed it on purpose as reported. Whether that is because of a deficiency on her part; I don't know.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:52 pm to
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She could have legit been the best option


How many times did Vandy punt?
Could the punter not have done what she did? What about the long snapper that was available?

There were other options
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:52 pm to
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She could have legit been the best option.


Shut the frick up, chris
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She played soccer and didn't vandy win the SEC championship in women's soccer?


That has frick all to do with kicking a football.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:53 pm to
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But in this situation, a woman playing P5 football, even as a kicker, its a safety concern.


I don't even give a shite about the safety concern (which you are correct, it is).

What people can't seem to get through their heads is that it's a complete tactical and strategic clusterfrick.

By having a female kickoff specialist you are:

A) Putting - in all likelihood - the weakest, smallest, and slowest player on the field. It's like having 10.5 players on your kickoff team rather than 11. And yes, sometimes kickers do have to save a touchdown by tackling a 200-lb athletic specimen. Kickers don't just kick the ball and waltz off the field. LINK

B) Conceding field position. A female cannot kick a football 65+ yards in the air with the hang-time that a male kicker can. See Vandy-Mizzou game. That's not me being a misogynist. It's just basic biology and physiology.

C) Due to point B above, if a team knows that the other team's kicker cannot kick it further than 30-35 yards, they will adjust their kickoff return formation accordingly and give themselves a major advantage in terms of blocking schemes.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 3:54 pm
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