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re: Izzo's files civil RICO charges against Baton Rouge's least favorite grocery chain

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Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 11:55 am to
Clearly I understand why it’s an issue to blackball them from shopping centers but stealing a burrito recipie is hilarious to me. It’s like stealing an omelet recipie
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Clearly I understand why it’s an issue to blackball them from shopping centers but stealing a burrito recipie is hilarious to me. It’s like stealing an omelet recipie


And fried chicken is just chicken and flour...
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48994 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Clearly I understand why it’s an issue to blackball them from shopping centers but stealing a burrito recipie is hilarious to me. It’s like stealing an omelet recipie


It wasn't the 'burrito recipe'. It was the entire BOOK of recipes for Izzos. That's a big deal. I'm no fan of Izzos but I see why they'd be pissed.
Everything is in there from queso, pico, salsa, guacamole, marinates, prep and cooking specs for the meats.
That's pretty significant and protected by non-compete agreements(i know hardly enforceable but everyone uses them).


This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Everything is in there from queso, pico, salsa, guacamole, marinates, prep and cooking specs for the meats.


Exactly. People are acting like it's a recipe like:

Fill tortilla
Roll tortilla
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Exactly. People are acting like it's a recipe like:

Fill tortilla
Roll tortilla

But everyone knows the recipes. They point through the spit shield and "cook" their burrito.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:21 pm to
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But everyone knows the recipes. They point through the spit shield and "cook" their burrito

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:29 pm to
Bump to trash Chipotle. Just had my first and last burrito from there. Terrible.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171954 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:30 pm to
Moes and izzos kick the shite out of Chipotle or Qdoba. Never had freebirds though.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:32 pm to
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The suit claims Rouses’ executives told leasing agents ... that Izzo’s ... was ‘litigious’”


Rouses may have had a point there...
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Rouses may have had a point there...

Geez, you steal someone's recipe book to use in your store and then illegally strong arm others to not do business with a company and they want to get all "sue-y"
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48994 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Geez, you steal someone's recipe book to use in your store and then illegally strong arm others to not do business with a company and they want to get all "sue-y"



No shite. If Rouses successfully kept them out of 7-10 shopping centers over several years. That would not be far-fetched to quantify it at ~$10m revenue lost over that many restaurants' estimated life of 10-15 yrs.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:58 pm to
None of that stuff is complicated to cook either. Have you ever made guac? You crush an avocado and add lime and salt. Queso is melted cheese. Pico is a very basic and easy thing to make as well. Maybe there's some kind of proprietary recipe for their hot sauce. That's the only thing that I can imagine there being some "secret" to. Yes, it pretty much is just filling a tortilla. The idea of stealing the recipe for a burrito restaurant is kind of funny. Tex Mex is some of the easiest stuff to cook out there.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171954 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:06 pm to
So what you're saying is every restaurant's salsa, queso, guac, etc tastes exactly the same? Tex Mex is easy to make so why don't we just have one Mexican chain period?

No, each restaurant has their own recipes they've created. Stealing those recipes, using them as your own, and then telling developers not to allow the person you stole them from to open up shop is ridiculous.

Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:10 pm to
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None of that stuff is complicated to cook either. Have you ever made guac? You crush an avocado and add lime and salt. Queso is melted cheese. Pico is a very basic and easy thing to make as well. Maybe there's some kind of proprietary recipe for their hot sauce. That's the only thing that I can imagine there being some "secret" to. Yes, it pretty much is just filling a tortilla. The idea of stealing the recipe for a burrito restaurant is kind of funny. Tex Mex is some of the easiest stuff to cook out there.



Again, this argument is as foolish as claiming KFC has no leg to stand on protecting their recipe by saying "fried chicken is easy, just throw some flour and spices in a bowl to coat chicken and fry it"

Spanish Rice
Cilantro Lime Rice
Grilled Chicken marinade
Grilled Steak Marinade
Ground Beef Seasoning
Multiple Bean varieties
2-3 Salsas at least
Queso etc...

Just because you believe Tex Mex is easy to cook doesn't mean all of those above and the methodology behind are not protected intellectual property.


Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Trying to keep Izzos out of certain shopping centers is most definitely illegal and most definitely serious shite.



Maybe not! Apparently if a developer signs a "reciprocal easement agreements, or REA", an anchor store can control who can open a store.

quote:

aging retail juggernauts are exploiting contracts with landlords that give them the power to dictate how a property can be developed, covering everything from parking to signage to what types of operators are allowed into a center.


Bloomberg

This is the tactic being used by Best Buy, Target and other Big Box stores to keep Amazon and Whole oods out.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:27 pm to
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Maybe not! Apparently if a developer signs a "reciprocal easement agreements, or REA", an anchor store can control who can open a store.


Not a lawyer, but I believe the difference between a REA and this is they did not block a category of store (Tex-mex), but a SPECIFIC tenant (Izzos).
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:29 pm to
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No shite. If Rouses successfully kept them out of 7-10 shopping centers over several years. That would not be far-fetched to quantify it at ~$10m revenue lost over that many restaurants' estimated life of 10-15 yrs.



I can get Whole Foods not wanting another anchor to be Alexander's or Calandros.

I don't see how Izzo's competes with Rouses in any way (unless they copied Izzo's burrito bar) - certainly not enough to justify pushing them out of a massive shopping center like Juban Crossing. That's especially odd since they allowed Moe's into Juban Crossing.

I'm not sure about the other claims, but that one looks like a bullshite move by Rouses.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:53 pm to
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they did not block a category of store (Tex-mex), but a SPECIFIC tenant (Izzos).


Could be the case. I'm only aware of this due to the Amazon/Whole Foods merger causing heartburn with Best Buy. I'm not a lawyer either, so I really don't know.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:54 pm to
#TeamIzzos

But like, I also enjoy Rouses
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