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re: It’s shocking to me how normalized receiving government assistance has become

Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by Capstone2017
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:11 pm to
You misunderstood what I meant. The rich's welfare is viewed as needed, while the poor's welfare is viewed as greedy when it is the exact opposite. Not that rich=bad, but if you run a company into the ground you should deal with the fricking consequences.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6141 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:23 pm to
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hard for veterans to get benefits they deserve


I respect legitimately injured veterans.

But, let's be honest. Lots of guys with disability claims are bullshite.

I've known guys getting veterans checks for
Ingrown toenail
Broken ankle in basic training
Testicular torsion
Etc

Very few are like my buddy who got his teeth fricked up from getting hit by an IED.

Plenty of veterans are mooches too.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33984 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:24 pm to
WIC (Women,Infants, and Children)
Medicare
Food stamps
Section 8
Social Security Disability

If you receive all of the above (and a shite ton of people do), then you can live well.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118850 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:25 pm to
Probably 1/2 of that are aren't really eligible, but the systems are so broken, there is no oversight, so it's spend, spend, spend.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:25 pm to
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I didn’t even think you could buy junk like that with food stamps


That is a real issue
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19188 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:29 pm to
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But, let's be honest. Lots of guys with disability claims are bull shite.

I've known guys getting veterans checks for
Ingrown toenail
Broken ankle in basic training
Testicular torsion
Etc

Very few are like my buddy who got his teeth fricked up from getting hit by an IED.

Plenty of veterans are mooches too.


Unfortunately, this is very true. A lot of these systems a truly broken.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8123 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:33 pm to
Can’t tell you how many people roll through walgreens or cvs, hand a medicaid card through the drive thru and drive off in their BMW
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19372 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:36 pm to
It's not just in the private sector. Take a gander at the number of local businesses that took the PPP money and made out like bandits. Millions of dollars, including non profits.

It's insane.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9666 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:36 pm to
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Anyone receiving welfare should forfeit his right to vote- and that includes the "Earned" Income Credit.


You're getting downvoted but there's something to this.

The net-takers are only gonna vote to net-take more of your taxpayer money, and therefore can hardly be objective when it comes to these matters. This will lead to the downfall of our young society.

A lot of the screeching you hear on the left are the perfectly-able-but-on-disability/welfare types.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5138 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:37 pm to
The best is the Medicaid patients that go to the ER 15 times a year
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:38 pm to
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Probably 1/2 of that are aren't really eligible, but the systems are so broken, there is no oversight, so it's spend, spend, spend.



You too can get in the fast lane

All you have to do is know LaQuanda from your local welfare office and cut her 20% of your haul and the forms will be done by tomorrow.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51883 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:05 pm to
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When I was younger, receiving government assistance carried a negative stigma.


The turning of the tide was getting rid of food stamps for EBT because peoples feelings were hurt using it.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:58 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15329 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:38 pm to
The government should just dissolve welfare and stimulus checks and let survival of the fittest commence. Tired of these bailouts and handouts. We need a culling of the herd
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4738 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:39 pm to
food stamps aren’t about people eating. It’s about the govt pumping $40 billion a year into the food industry. We might hate it, but that’s what help rural groceries exist beyond the first 5 days of the month.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:53 pm to
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It’s shocking to me how normalized receiving government assistance has become
agree, so called fiscal conservatives are all too happy to allow handouts to farm subsidies, aviation subsidies, energy subsidies, export subsidies, sba subsidies, NFIP, etc. all while following anyone with a snap card at Rouses to the parking lot to judge what type of vehicle they put their groceries in.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:02 pm to
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agree, so called fiscal conservatives are all too happy to allow handouts to farm subsidies, aviation subsidies, energy subsidies, export subsidies, sba subsidies, NFIP, etc. all while following anyone with a snap card at Rouses to the parking lot to judge what type of vehicle they put their groceries in.



The entire business bailout for China Virus is less than the total on the first page of this chart which occurs every year into forever.

The difference is stark

Mostly because most of that business money could have actually gone to the welfare people if they bothered to work.

Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6538 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by marchballer
The Greatest Country on Earth
Member since Aug 2008
4118 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:11 pm to
I like how these threads neglect to include the other forms of entitlement spending like 1 trillion dollars in Social Security benefits and 700 billion in Medicare.

Also let’s not forget how we spend $600 billion on the department of defense when we are bordered by 2 oceans and a very peaceful neighbor to the north.

Hate on welfare but also look at how much we spend in other areas as well.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71322 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:15 pm to
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You mean like what the farmers get or the big bailouts for companies.

Why do you find it shocking?

I mean, what you are mentioning isn't really govt assistance. It's a pittance.


You're creating a strawman that people who disagree with medicaid agree with those.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14777 posts
Posted on 9/8/20 at 1:21 am to
To be fair, these government “handouts” are really just giving you back what they previously took via taxation.

ETA: Ronaldo’s cartoon nails it
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 1:25 am
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