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re: It's Happening!!! The St. George trial started Monday, May 2. Media stopped covering 5/10.

Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38158 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:13 pm to
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You use the sheriff’s office every time you pay property taxes. Who do you think runs the court and jail. Patrol is just hobby for them.


I believe the only roles EBRSO is required by law to handle are the prison and tax collection. The rest could be rolled up tomorrow.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
526 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:13 pm to
No shite.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:23 pm to
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If I live in the BR city limits can I stop paying property taxes for a Sheriffs Department I can’t use?

But you do benefit from the Sheriff just as I benefit from the library I don’t use, the parks I don’t go to and the public schools.

That argument doesn’t fly.

Besides I would bet their are way more BAton Rougeans locked up in the Parish Pridon than SGeans and the Sheriff guards them fit you.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8785 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:30 pm to
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I agree, but you got to admit the organizational optics aren’t that great for a future city with 90k people. Has the race card been played? Cause SG don’t look so good in that area either.


You ask questions like you’ve followed this not at all? The optics are fine if you take off your Broome glasses and just look at the history of the thing. A 3 minute Google search and 5 minute read around the attempts at getting a school district which led to St George.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23817 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:33 pm to
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I think they need to split the metro council form of government up. The city of BR and the parish form of government needs to be separated


Virginia does this state wide. Cities and counties are totally independent. Separate schools, governments, everything.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42916 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:35 pm to
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They don’t patrol in St. George? That’s should be comforting to all those St. Georgians.


As long as they guard the border with BR we’ll be ok out here.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
526 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:36 pm to
I think it’s a valid argument because STG will directly benefit. Although, apparently sheriff’s don’t patrol.

I’m just raising questions really. I’m not even anti-STG. Just because that area incorporates doesn’t mean all the issues go away. For instance, what would a significant cut to the BRPD mean to STG from a crime standpoint? Is that not a valid question?

Some of the hot spots for crime are right on the borders between the two cities.

This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8785 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:40 pm to
The Hayride Article on St George from Today.

Says that brpd is down over 100 officers than what it should have. I imagine that covers much of the budget?
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
526 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:45 pm to
Maybe. Have you seen a budget?

It could mean STG will need to establish a Police Dept. Why would the Sheriff’s dept. suddenly do it job harder just because St. George?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103112 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:49 pm to
FYI, Murphy Paul admitted under oath they took the money from those 100 unfilled positions and used it to pay raises to other officers.

Which means that cutting that money means not filling those 100 jobs AND losing more officers.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8785 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:49 pm to
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Maybe. Have you seen a budget? It could mean STG will need to establish a Police Dept. Why would the Sheriff’s dept. suddenly do it job harder just because St. George?


Haven’t seen the budget. Actually just looked up that it’s 770 officers, not that it matters. But you’re also asking questions like someone who hasn’t read a single thing on the city. Including the fact that the Sheriff already does this for St George area and would continue to do so. I think it’s been stated at least once in this thread.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8785 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:50 pm to
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FYI, Murphy Paul admitted under oath they took the money from those 100 unfilled positions and used it to pay raises to other officers. Which means that cutting that money means not filling those 100 jobs AND losing more officers.


My goodness. Sounds like they need to bring in the Bobs to fix that mess.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:50 pm to
BRPD, is a hot mess.
They no longer protect and serve the people of BR.
The city so spread out and they don’t have the officers.
They are just the mayors puppet.

Metro council form of government cannot clean ditches and handle parish functions. Even metro council members told me the parish is too large to be able to provide these services.

When your employees are not making much money, too many manager vs workers, and they are so bogged down in red tape productivity is lacking.

You have problems such as ditches not being maintained, potholes not being fixed for months if not years, and grass on parish servitude’s not being cut.

This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 7:55 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:52 pm to
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When your employees are not making much money, too many manager vs workers, and they are so bogged down in red tape productivity is lacking.


The BRPD is a huge issue, but this is another big one.
Lots and lots of chiefs with few Indians.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19809 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:57 pm to
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I'm annoyed that OP says "UPDATE AT THE BOTTOM OF OP" but this is LIE!


I couldn't update again after Wednesday because the media stopped covering the trial. It's bizarre.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:57 pm to
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I think it’s a valid argument because STG will directly benefit. Although, apparently sheriff’s don’t patrol.


The Sheriff does patrol, but not as much as they should. But neither does BRPD.
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I’m just raising questions really. I’m not even anti-STG. Just because that area incorporates doesn’t mean all the issues go away. For instance, what would a significant cut to the BRPD mean to STG from a crime standpoint? Is that not a valid question?

The BRPD was undermanned when Broome took over. She made it worse. That is well documented.

And yes a weak BRPD hurts the entire parish. The mayor has proven to be incompetent and can’t fix the problem. She has to go.



Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
526 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:58 pm to
Yes, I understand that the Sheriff’s role would not change. That was, in fact, the point. You obviously haven’t read through all the posts prior to responding to me.

Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:58 pm to
I agree.

Instead of going in with plans to clean all the ditches or put culverts in under a systematic approach it the shotgun approach.

Whoever squeaks the loudest gets their ditch cleaned. Instead of working an area and fixing things the workers are jumping around. It is not fair to the residents or workers.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:58 pm to
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I couldn't update again after Wednesday because the media stopped covering the trial. It's bizarre.

I believe they covered the mayor’s side and backed off fair and balanced.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41724 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Instead of going in with plans to clean all the ditches or put culverts in under a systematic approach it the shotgun approach.

Whoever squeaks the loudest gets their ditch cleaned. Instead of working an area and fixing things the workers are jumping around. It is not fair to the residents or workers.

Call 2 on our side.
Best approach.
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