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Loup
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It's amazing how far medicine has come...President James K Polk's bladder stone operation

Spin off from the kidney stone thread. I'm currently reading Blood and Thunder and this surgery was briefly mentioned.


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"By modern standards, the operation was a terrifying procedure. It occurred under whatever sedation was obtainable from brandy. Jim's legs were held high in the air and being restrained by straps and assistants, the operation was done as quickly as possible. The procedure was to cut into the perineum (the area immediately behind the scrotum and in front of the anus) (AKA the taint/grundle) with a knife and thence through the prostate into the bladder with a gorget, a pointed, sharp instrument designed for this purpose. The stones were removed with forceps or a scoop. As able as [Dr.] McDowell was, and as quick as he had to be, the procedure must have meant a hellish half-hour of sheer torture for Jim Polk and a recovery period of several weeks before he could return home. Considering the crude methodology involved, the probable tearing of ejaculatory ducts, tissues, nerves and arteries as the gorget penetrated the prostate, there can be little doubt that the operation left him unable to father a child."






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I just finished watching the Knick. Highly recommend. It’s a medical drama set in the 1900s. Some of the stuff they do is WILD


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I just finished watching the Knick. Highly recommend. It’s a medical drama set in the 1900s. Some of the stuff they do is WILD

Agreed. Great show


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BottomlandBrew
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frick. That.


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LT
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I'm currently reading Blood and Thunder 


Kit Carson is a Baw's Baw.

Mule riding badass Baw

Great book!


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behind the scrotum and in front of the anus)


So they cut his taint open.


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Theboot32
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Blood and Thunder


Hows the book? Historically accurate? Enjoy reading about that time period, have not read this one.


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Historically accurate?


as an idiot I can honestly say I don't know. I've been enjoying it, though. Kit Carson was pretty much the Forest Gump of the wild west. He popped up at all of the historically significant events.


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LT
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Great historically accurate book with compelling story.

I was kind if bummed once I finished, it was that good.


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By modern standards, the operation was a terrifying procedure.


Was it really any less terrifying under any standards amd not just our modern sensibilities?


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The procedure was to cut into the perineum (the area immediately behind the scrotum and in front of the anus) (AKA the taint/grundle) with a knife and thence through the prostate into the bladder with a gorget, a pointed, sharp instrument designed for this purpose. The stones were removed with forceps or a scoop.




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Jake88
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Greatest inventions:

Anesthesia
Electricity
Air Conditioning


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Spin off from the kidney stone thread. I'm currently reading Blood and Thunder and this surgery was briefly mentioned.


same here. uncomfortable to read.

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with a gorget, a pointed, sharp instrument


google gorget


GasMan
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That sounds as bad as Al Swearingen’s kidney stone procedure.


Wiseguy
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The other part that makes this even worse- there was no imaging. So it was literally the doctor cutting and pushing his way up in there blindly. He had no idea where the stone was. Well, that’s not exactly true. He knew it was in the bladder. But once he got there it was rummaging around until he found the thing. At least these days the Dr knows where he is going and can watch the instrument as it zeroes in on the stone.
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Greatest inventions:

Anesthesia
Electricity
Air Conditioning
Naked, straight men.


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Naked, straight men.
How you doin'...uhh...sir, damnit.


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Seppuku
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freak that!!

I've had around 8 kidney stones(3 put me on the ground) and 1 needed lazer treatment after a stint(sp?)... that lazer thumping shite hurt. I couldn't imagine what Polk went through.


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