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re: Is the US military the most bloated employer?

Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Wars are fought with missiles nukes etc. who cares about Timmy with a gun? We should cut down infantry spend and focus more on technology like small drone warfare.

fires without maneuver is indecisive, maneuver without fires is suicide.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6082 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:11 pm to
Yes easily. If the general public knew how bloated, inefficient and incompetent the entire military is there'd be protests in the streets.

Give me the power and i could cut half the force and get much more done.

And don't get more started on veterans fraudulently claiming VA disability benefits.

The whole thing is sickening.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6282 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:12 pm to
The entitlement by these folks are worse than the inner city folks. They had a job and they did the work, I don’t go claiming benefits after 10 years since I quit wtf
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Give me the power and i could cut half the force and get much more done.

And don't get more started on veterans fraudulently claiming VA disability benefits.

i completely disagree with you about halving the force and getting more done, but you are 100% right about fraudulent VA claims. that shite is absolutely infuriating and no politician will ever touch it.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3657 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:16 pm to
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I feel every highschool male with a 2.0 gpa goes to the military


You were probably too fat to join
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:19 pm to
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The entitlement by these folks are worse than the inner city folks. They had a job and they did the work, I don’t go claiming benefits after 10 years since I quit wtf

look, lifelong VA benefits is part of the gig and it's part of why a lot of people get in and stay in. you say "entitlement by these folks" so derisively, but yes, literally, VA benefits are an entitlement that we earn based on the deal we make with the government when we sign up. so you can frick right off with a mass generalization of "these folks" implying "all veterans".

THAT SAID

fraudulent claims and milking the system by SOME veterans is a real problem that absolutely will have to be addressed sooner or later, and yes SOME veterans do have an overblown sense of entitlement.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6082 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:22 pm to
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i completely disagree with you about halving the force and getting more done,


I'd close more than half of all US bases/ports/camps, posts, etc. May close some oversees locations also.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:23 pm to
ok
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38823 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Is the US military the most bloated employer?
---no, the IRS is


Post Office would like a word...

ETA: someone beat me to it almost word for word
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4625 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:40 pm to
We’ve got way too many generals and admirals.WW2 the ratio of flag officers to soldiers and sailors was 1:6,000.Now the ratio is 1:1400 last I read.

Obama purged all the patriots from the upper ranks,now all we have are a bunch of grifters whose only concern is getting a gig with the defense contractors when they retire.
They don’t give two shits about the country or the troops.
Like a bunch of peacocks strutting around with their chest full of ribbons representing the medals they hand out to each other.Looks impressive to civilians that don’t know what the deal is.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28156 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:42 pm to
Department of state
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:42 pm to
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We’ve got way too many generals and admirals.WW2 the ratio of flag officers to soldiers and sailors was 1:6,000.Now the ratio is 1:1400 last I read. Obama purged all the patriots from the upper ranks,now all we have are a bunch of grifters whose only concern is getting a gig with the defense contractors when they retire. They don’t give two shits about the country or the troops. Like a bunch of peacocks strutting around with their chest full of ribbons representing the medals they hand out to each other.Looks impressive to civilians that don’t know what the deal is.

facts. every word.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:42 pm to
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The U.S. Postal Service would like a word.


The U.S. Postal Service recorded a fiscal 2022 net profit of $56.0 billion.

Apparently lost money in 2023 tho
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
23666 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:47 pm to
The military alone? No. The MIC as a whole? Perhaps.

I can tell you most fighting units run pretty lean compared to what would happen if they weren’t ready.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15585 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:48 pm to
I'd say that or the IRS. It's as if they'd made the tax code deliberately complicated as a jobs program. Make it a flat rate across the board with no exemptions or deducts and we could gut the hell out of it.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:49 pm to
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The U.S. Postal Service recorded a fiscal 2022 net profit of $56.0 billion. Apparently lost money in 2023 tho

i dont know the numbers, you obviously looked them up, but i'm with you. the post office, as infuriatingly inefficient as they can be, dont really strike me as particularly "bloated". if anything, every time i'm in there, i'm like WHY ARENT THERE FIVE MORE PEOPLE IN HERE HELPING.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71940 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Is the US military the most bloated employer? ---no, the IRS is


The IRS should cease to exist.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71940 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Obama purged all the patriots from the upper ranks,now all we have are a bunch of grifters whose only concern is getting a gig with the defense contractors when they retire. They don’t give two shits about the country or the troops. Like a bunch of peacocks strutting around with their chest full of ribbons representing the medals they hand out to each other.Looks impressive to civilians that don’t know what the deal is.


And Biden finished the job culling not only flag ranks, but all ranks as well with his COVID mandate. Between Obama and Biden, they pulled off a political military purge that would have impressed Stalin himself.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4069 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
I’m more concerned that you are gauging the real world based on what you saw while watching someone play a video game.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170495 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:55 pm to
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As far as government spending is concerned, the US military is always the last expenditure I complain about.

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