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re: Interesting maps on state vaccination rates, average IQ, and racial makeup

Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36201 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:39 am to
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The old 'all the smart people are doing it' ploy.


You shouldn’t even have to be smart to know getting the vaccine is a good idea. They just aren’t very good at marketing the vaccine to dumb people, so they come to places like message boards and believe all the misinformation.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:40 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:41 am to
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Stick: Peer pressure and playground double dare tactics. “Only stupid people aren’t getting the shot.” “Why are you afraid of the shot”



That's what the media is doing. The data doesn't back that up. There's definitely a correlation, but it's not that strong.

You can't just say "red states = stupid, therefore republicans are stupid" when you look at that IQ map without understanding the demographics in those states.It's just as bad as when people on this forum automatically tie cities to high crime - when the reality is that even places like Chicago or Memphis also have incredibly nice, safe neighborhoods within their borders.

The media targets an audience that doesn't dig very deep into the facts, and the journalists themselves have a major left leaning bias. They will JUMP at any opportunity to ridicule people that don't share their world view.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5352 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:44 am to
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Nice try Biden. Still not taking your experimental vaccine.


Trump's vaccine....never forget. I love Trump. He was saving lives by getting his vaccine done at warp speed. He'll go down in history as the world's greatest life saver.

I wonder why the conservatives on TD hate Trump now and won't take his vaccine? Weird. I thank the man for his contribution to ending the pandemic. Feels great knowing Delta won't kill me.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7555 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:47 am to
Would like to see a map with average age in these states.

With older people more often getting the vaccine, that would be an important item to review.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:55 am to
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They just aren’t very good at marketing the vaccine to dumb people, so they come to places like message boards and believe all the misinformation.




As a person that distrusts the media almost as much as the rest of you....I partially disagree with that statement.

You are right that there are a lot of intellectually lazy people who lap up everything the media sells them will do everything they are told without much thought. They'll also have the nerve to ridicule people who don't agree with their world view even though it's largely backed by slanted media coverage that never challenges anyone like them. They never had to wade through the constant stream of bullshite spewed by our politicians and our media and they are accustomed to eating what they are fed. If they have the intellectual horsepower to read and understand data, they certainly aren't exercising it.

Then there are those of us whose observed what's happened in this country over the past 20 years and have developed a healthy skepticism of government, media, public health officials, and even law enforcement. We have to sift through all the lies and misinformation to identify and disseminate credible data on our own. Then approximate risks of getting the vaccine vs not getting the vaccine. Then make a decision to get the shot or not. Not everyone that has to do this will come to the same conclusion because we don't all have the same risk parameters or access to the same information. And we don't all have the motivation or intellectual horsepower to evaluate data and draw our own conclusions.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am to
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Nice try Biden. Still not taking your experimental vaccine.



Trump vaccine. And Trump GOT the vaccine himself along with his wife.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13334 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:03 am to
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bullshite. You care a lot,


Never said I don't care, I said do what you want. I can't control others nor try to.

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as do those using fear, intimidation, insulting people’s intelligence, and even bribery to get people to fall in line. Don’t give me that shite. It’s that very polarizing crap that causes people to be apprehensive to getting it as it’s more like Jim Jones getting everyone to drink koolaide than taking a vaccination. It’s ridiculously over the top, and littered with doubl


Why are you lumping me in with those people?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13334 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:06 am to
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Trump's vaccine....never forget. I love Trump. He was saving lives by getting his vaccine done at warp speed. He'll go down in history as the world's greatest life saver.

I wonder why the conservatives on TD hate Trump now and won't take his vaccine? Weird. I thank the man for his contribution to ending the pandemic. Feels great knowing Delta won't kill me.



Trump did get it done and then took the vaccine himself and told everyone else to take it. It's like people just ignore that.

I have to assume if he was still in office and telling people to get it, there would be a much higher vaccination rate in some areas of the country. I'm not sure what that says about people, I really don't.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:44 am to
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I have to assume if he was still in office and telling people to get it, there would be a much higher vaccination rate in some areas of the country. I'm not sure what that says about people, I really don't.



How would Trump tell the people to get it (or not to get it) now? He's banned from Twitter, Facebook, etc.
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