re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles

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Do you plan on him ever having a job?

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Like I said, if he wants to get a SS number, he’s completely free to do so. If he thinks he needs to get one, he absolutely will. He’s completely free to do so.

I have a social security number. I got it when I was 16 or 17 years old. My father gave me the same choice. He didn’t sign me up at birth.

I chose not to register my son with the federal government retirement plan at birth because it was “easier for me”.

I have question for everyone, what other legal instrument are you locking your child into FOR LIFE with zero consultation on their part?

Chicken, I deeply invested in this please don't wack this thread like the stole trailer thread.

You son is in good company, Rip Wheeler doesn't have an SSN either.

All in all, this sounds like the uni-bomber origin story.

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Are you a sovereign citizen

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No. I have all the same stuff you have. I have a SS number, pay a shocking amount in taxes and follow every law to the letter.

I just think the government should do that too. They should follow the law. It doesn’t matter if it makes their life inconvenient.

In East Feliciana, there is a Motor Vehicle inspection station. This station is in a non emissions test parish. For YEARS they would charge everyone in East Feliciana an extra 10 bucks to get an inspection sticker because they had to do the emissions test.

Do you know why? Because it made the paperwork easier for the DPS when they went to audit them. The DPS made the station over “Tax” the people of East Feliciana to the tune of at least 150k because they wanted their paperwork to be less complicated.

It’s not like that anymore. I got it changed, by myself when other folks said they couldn’t. Was it easier to just pay the 10 bucks. Sure it was. The principle of the matter wouldn’t let me.

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IRS direct IRS requires SSN Title 26 Internal Revenue Code Section 6109 Use of Identifying Numbers Authorization of the IRS The US Constitution Amendment 16 Other number that can be used on a tax return + requirements ITIN

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I appreciate you posting this, I’ll take a look when I have some time.

Holy fricking shite you are the worst kind of retard because you’ve, completely unnecessarily, dragged your kid into it. You are the exact same as the people parading around their children and declaring them trans, telling everyone about it, and expecting a pat on the back. You might be worse tbh because this is such a moronic hill to die on.

Best thing for your son is a Walmart 18 wheeler explodes your car, settlement goes into a trust for him, he gets a couple years with a non piece of crap foster family, and of course, is issued a SS#

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what other legal instrument are you locking your child into FOR LIFE with zero consultation on their part?

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A birth certificate. School records. Medical records.

What consequences do you think you are sparing him from? You already got him a passport. You are suing to get him a license. What is so special about a SS number that you will make his life more difficult because you think you are sticking it to the man?

ETA: please link you Nextdoor profile. I bet it’s an entertaining read

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It’s self-important, I got my GED from the school of hard knocks bullshite. And his kid is the only one suffering for it.

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I’m not sure how you imagine my son is suffering. I assure you, he’s not. My son will get his drivers license at 16 just like everyone else.

No one has asked the question that I’m curious about.

Why does the DMV even have a policy that requires you to provide a social security number even though it’s in explicit violation of both state and federal law?

It didn’t used to be that way. They didn’t require it 15ish years ago. What changed? Can anyone answer that?

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even though it’s in explicit violation of both state and federal law?

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It is not a violation of federal law.

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Yep, that's a hell of a hill to die on with so many other things out there to get your panties in a wad over.

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The average person pays almost half a million & into social security over a lifetime. OT bawlers pay somewhere into the billions.

This is no small hill

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I'm curious why you would think that.

This specific statement below is in 32:409.1

The department shall not deny any person a driver's license or a renewal if that person has not obtained a government-issued social security number based on Section 7 of Pub. L. 93-579 Section

This is exactly what the DMV is doing. How is that not relevant? It's also specifically against federal law as well.

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A learner's permit is not a driver's license.