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I realized why group conversations usually suck
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:51 pm
Today I sat down and smoked a cigar with a group of older guys (55-70 years old). A few times I wanted to ask a question to hear more about something that was said. Like one guy was talking about how widely used acid was when he was in the service, and I wanted to hear more about that but there was no room or patience for questions. There was no dead air, everytime someone finished a sentence someone else would jump right in to say their own thing, and sometimes take the conversation in an entirely different direction. No one was asking anyone questions or giving any topic room to breathe. There was no digestion of what anyone was saying, just a race to say the first thing that came to your head.
Now that I’ve thought about it more, I realize group conversations are almost always like that, and that’s why I generally avoid them or tend to space out during them. People need to slow down, shut up, and ask at least one question to someone else for every declarative statement or story of their own they want to share.
Now that I’ve thought about it more, I realize group conversations are almost always like that, and that’s why I generally avoid them or tend to space out during them. People need to slow down, shut up, and ask at least one question to someone else for every declarative statement or story of their own they want to share.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:54 pm to Jon Ham
"Hey man, can you tell me more about the acid stuff?"
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:55 pm to Jon Ham
Short and simple for that type of group. "I've never dropped acid. What's it like and how can I score some tabs?"
Posted on 6/20/21 at 9:56 pm to Jon Ham
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There was no dead air, everytime someone finished a sentence someone else would jump right in to say their own thing, and sometimes take the conversation in an entirely different direction.
They still tripping.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:06 pm to Jon Ham
Serious response. I'm with you on this. Lately, I can handle a three person conversation fine, but anything larger and I find it turns into first to talk wins type deal. Reminds me of the first day of school. I attribute it to covid as a lot of these conversations were limited for awhile and a lot of people (esp in the age group you reference) are just getting back into socializing in groups again. And Im not judging, Im sure I am just as guilty of this.
Of course, I am only talking about discussions in a group of men. Involve women, and that shite has been going off the rails in a heartbeat since the dawn of the human race.
Of course, I am only talking about discussions in a group of men. Involve women, and that shite has been going off the rails in a heartbeat since the dawn of the human race.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:19 pm to Jon Ham
You have to stop trying to be in the group conversation and try being kind of a vocal outsider. When someone says some thing cool like acid you tell F yeah ACID rocks. Then don't say anything. If the person pauses and looks at you then you stare them back down and say effing A I love you guys. Then walk away and smash a beer and come back and act like nothing ever happened.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:21 pm to Jon Ham
Plot twist: OP dropped acid and hallucinated the whole conversation.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:24 pm to Jon Ham
I'll say that at times I'm bad about thinking ahead during conversations instead of just taking in what's being shared. It's something I'm constantly working on and needed from more of us, I believe.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:25 pm to Jon Ham
Is it maybe you aren’t very assertive?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:26 pm to Jon Ham
Yup true story, especially if you have some 1 uppers in the group. Similarly, thats why i enjoy podcasts over tv interviews. You really get to hear a subject stretched out and discussed.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:28 pm to Jon Ham
I noticed this more in group text chats. I eventually acknowledged that I didn't care for most group talk and that I was faking my way through most of it just to fit in, as though if I didn't participate I'd be viewed as not caring. My stress decreased when I stopped giving a damn if I was favorably or unfavorably viewed.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:29 pm to Jon Ham
quote:I’d guess there’s a high probability that “smoked a cigar” to Arky folk is a euphemism for pole smoking.
Today I sat down and smoked a cigar with a group of older guys (55-70 years old).
With this contextual clue, I’ll see myself out of this thread.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:30 pm to Jon Ham
I think you're wrong, John Ham.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:33 pm to Jon Ham
Or you could nut up and ask a question
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:38 pm to Jon Ham
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Today I sat down and smoked a cigar with a group of older guys (55-70 years old).
Nice Boomer troll. 7/10.
Millennials suck.
News at 11pm.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:39 pm to Jon Ham
quote:
Today I sat down and smoked a cigar with a group of older guys (55-70 years old).
quote:
Now that I’ve thought about it more, I realize group conversations are almost always like that, and that’s why I generally avoid them or tend to space out during them. People need to slow down, shut up, and ask at least one question to someone else for every declarative statement or story of their own they want to share.
The problem is not your friends. It's their wives who don't let them do this more often. If y'all were allowed to do this once a month, you'd get all your words in and questions answered.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:39 pm to RantardoMontalbon
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News at 11pm.
Is it going to rain tomorrow?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:40 pm to Havoc
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Is it maybe you aren’t very assertive?
When you’re taking time to actually listen, digest, and formulate a question it doesn’t matter how assertive you are when there are multiple other people who are just racing to be the next one to talk regardless of quality or continuity of their input. Hell sometimes people are just straight up cutting off the person talking.
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