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re: I accidentally adopted a pit bull (mix) FINAL UPDATE: p. 15

Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:26 am to
Is the doctor really interested in what breed of dog you have are the $$ to be made on genetic testing?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:29 am to
You got the dog as a puppy. Dogs don’t just snap and kill kids without reason. If you raise the dog properly it will behave properly. If you raise the dog poorly, you shouldn’t have it in the first place.
Posted by AvidLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
657 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:50 am to
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Dogs don’t just snap and kill kids without reason.


But if you read the OT often, you'll see that's exactly what they do! Hence, the concern.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22505 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:51 am to
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Y’all are poon tangs. It’s a mix not a full blown baby killer tank of a pitt.

A lot of those attacks are from dogs who are half pit
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:51 am to
Good on you for adopting, but tell your wife to quit being a fricking idiot.
Posted by puse01
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:54 am to
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This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:55 am to
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But if you read the OT often, you'll see that's exactly what they do!


Extreme outliers aside, there is always a causal chain for behavior. Again, dogs don’t just snap.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29861 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:01 am to
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Statistics do not bear this line of thinking out



Post them.



The raw statistics indicate that genetics are at play with he breed, at least somewhat. Individual dogs are just that. There are cases of pit bulls growing up with a family and still attacking family members and there are cases of pits rescued from horrible conditions and being rehabilitated to become wonderful family pets. But the overall numbers are reason for a person with small children to be concerned, regardless.

A good article in The Post and Courier

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A recent study indicated that between 1982 and 2012, 426 people were killed by dogs in the United States and Canada. Of these deaths, 233 (54 percent) were caused by pit bull attacks, while pit bulls comprise only 4 percent to 5 percent of the dog population.


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In that same period, there were 3,394 cases reported where a dog attack resulted in bodily harm, of which 2,235 (65 percent) were caused by pit bulls.


An interesting note I have read in the past is that most of those are by males who have not been neutered. it was something like 85-90%. Sorry, I don't have the link currently.

When kids are involved, I think an excess of caution is not a bad thing.

Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:07 am to
Those statistics tell me that pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds when they attack. If Chihuahua’s were 5x bigger, we’d have a bunch of stupid ‘Chihuahuas are indiscriminate killers” threads.

If the concern is taking in an already grown pit bull around kids, I get it. This is a puppy we’re talking about.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:17 am to
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Dogs don’t just snap and kill kids without reason. If you raise the dog properly it will behave properly.


Hundreds of stories with Pits where this isn’t true.

If I find a bobcat kitten and raise it properly will it be safe around my family?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:19 am to
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If the concern is taking in an already grown pit bull around kids, I get it. This is a puppy we’re talking about.


I mean why even take the freaking chance??

Pit anything is trash breed with too much chance of instability.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:27 am to
How do you know the pits you’re referring to were raised properly? You don’t. And the likelihood that a properly raised dog randomly attacks anyone is extremely low.

And dogs are been bred to live with humans for millennia. You obviously don’t feel safe around pit bulls, so stay away from them. Just don’t pretend to know what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15419 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:29 am to
I think we found our resident trashy pit bull owner
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:32 am to
Nah, just happen to work in close proximity to several animal behavior experts who I’d bet have a bit more knowledge than your average OT poster.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29861 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:33 am to
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Those statistics tell me that pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds when they attack.


That's not all those statistics tell me, or most rational people in my opinion. The same study showed that
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doberman pinschers, another breed often singled out as dangerous, and comprise about 1.5 percent of the population, were responsible for seven (1.6 percent) deaths in a 30-year-period.



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If Chihuahua’s were 5x bigger, we’d have a bunch of stupid ‘Chihuahuas are indiscriminate killers” threads.



But they are not 5 times bigger. Chihuahuas do bite the most but they tend to defensive or reactively nip. The way pits attack and bite tend to be more aggressive and seemed to be triggered by less in many cases (a purely anecdotal opinion on my part).

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If the concern is taking in an already grown pit bull around kids, I get it. This is a puppy we’re talking about.



The concern is broader, it relates to taking in a shelter dog (or any dog, really) with unknown genetics. The breed was specifically bred to specific traits that make it generally more aggressive than other breeds. There is no denying that.




Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:37 am to
You completely missed the point, as evidenced by your first line referring back to another statistic that fails to disconfirm that pit bulls are just more dangerous when they attack.

And yeah, like I said, I understand the concern of taking in an already developed animal with no knowledge of their last experience. Have to leave that for responsible, intelligent people with lots of time on their hands.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:39 am to
I have two rescue dogs.

Chihuahua mix - hates other dogs, hates kids, skeptical around other adults.

Pit bull mix - loves everything, loves kids, lets the neighborhood kids hug him (maybe he’s just sizing them up). He also lets the 15 lb chihuahua mix man handle him all the time.

Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:40 am to
Watch out! It’s going to go on a murderous rampage for no apparent reason one day!

- OT simpleton
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:43 am to
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The breed was specifically bred to specific traits that make it generally more aggressive than other breeds. There is no denying that.


You have no fricking clue what you're talking about. APBT's were bred to be dog aggressive, while maintaining a strong love for humans and a desire to please. The reason being, fighting dogs had a tendency to change hands fairly often and were also around many strangers every time they were matched. Not to mention the need for both handers to be able to reach in and grab the combatants at any time during the fight without threat of being bitten. They needed to be extremely pleasant toward people and were in fact regularly culled for showing any amount of human aggression.

Educate yourselves on real facts. These threads are always so full of ignorance.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22169 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:47 am to
Hurry up and shoot him before your guns are lost in a boating accident.
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