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re: How to stop a moose attack like a boss

Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:08 pm to
I really hope there hasn't been one hunter in this thread upset by this video.
Posted by Sterling Archer
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:08 pm to
Stand your ground law. He'll get off
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:10 pm to
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Wildlife and people use the same paths and are gonna cross. He may not have made all the right choices, I don't know but I can't blame him for popping the thing when it turned for round 3.


At that point, yeah, but he shouldn't have moved closer to the Moose. I would have instantly stopped, hope the Moose went off the trail, and yell at it if it came any closer. I sure as frick wouldn't deliberately get closer to it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:11 pm to
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By far. Bears go out of their way to avoid being detected, moose purposely try to piss you off.


Yeah, I've seen how they're a major, major pest in Anchorage and simply don't give a frick.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:13 pm to
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At that point, yeah, but he shouldn't have moved closer to the Moose. I would have instantly stopped, hope the Moose went off the trail,


That isn't happening. Moose (and bear) use the same trails people use. They dislike walking through deep snow as much as people do. Once they find a trail, it's theirs.

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and yell at it if it came any closer. I sure as frick wouldn't deliberately get closer to it.


He probably thought he would nudge it along. Bad mistake on his part. We don't always make great choices under stress. I know I don't have a perfect track record.

Once the moose turned the third time, he did the right thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Yeah, I've seen how they're a major, major pest in Anchorage and simply don't give a frick.


They really don't give a shite. Over 200 are killed on roads in the Mat-Su every year. I've nailed one, they like to use the illumination from headlights to cross the road. I've also been treed by one because he was licking salt off my car and didn't want to be bothered for a few hours.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:18 pm to
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He didn't need to shoot it.


At that point, he needed to for sure. He just shouldn't have provoked the Moose. Like a previous poster said, he wouldn't have done that with a Grizzly, and Moose can be as dangerous as they are.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted by engvol
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:31 pm to
Real boss like leaving it to die over the next couple of hours/day
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Real boss like leaving it to die over the next couple of hours/day
Finally, someone comes in that knows what happened after the video shuts off. Let's hear it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:02 pm to
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I really hope there hasn't been one hunter in this thread upset by this video.


Not all hunters are sportsmen, but I doubt many sportsmen would be upset with the video.

Don't get me wrong, I hate one had to die like that and it could have been prevented but once the Moose started attacking, the guy did the right thing and put it down.

There's a good chance Fish and Game would have put down an aggressive moose if the snowmachiner didn't.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:11 pm to
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I really hope there hasn't been one hunter in this thread upset by this video.



the frick?

I'm a hunter and a "sportsman" and that video pisses me off
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:13 pm to
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the frick?

I'm a hunter and a "sportsman" and that video pisses me off



I agree. How can you watch how that went down and not be mad about it. Senseless.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:15 pm to
Let me be more clear in my point, rather than play semantics with the nitpicking expert. I guarantee there was at least on person who posted disgust by this video, who wakes up at 4am, all giddy, puts on his gear, grabs his weapon, heads to the woods, hides in wait for an animal going on about its day, shoots that animal, and then brags about it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:16 pm to
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I guarantee there was at least on person who posted disgust by this video, who wakes up at 4am, all giddy, puts on his gear, grabs his weapon, heads to the woods, hides in wait for an animal going on about its day, shoots that animal, and then brags about it.


really?

Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:16 pm to
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How to stop a moose attack like a bitch
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:19 pm to
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the frick?

I'm a hunter and a "sportsman" and that video pisses me off


I agree. How can you watch how that went down and not be mad about it. Senseless.


There it is.

It would have been cool if he went looking for the animal, or better, hid and waited for it, and then shot it? But defending himself from an attacking animal is crossing the line? Wow.

And I have nothing against hunting, and go out on a rare occasion. Even with the small number of animals I have killed, I would feel like a pretty big hypocrite for being upset at this video.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:21 pm to
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It would have been cool if he went looking for the animal, or better, hid and waited for it, and then shot it?


for the purpose of consuming the animal, yes

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But defending himself from an attacking animal is crossing the line? Wow.


you mean agitating an animal until it attacks then killing it, yes
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:27 pm to
I thought it was clear that he was making noises to get it to move away from the path, and then enhanced the noises when the moose approached, and then finally defended himself after being struck and seeing the moose turn back around.

And you really have no idea if he left it.

And yet, without full knowledge, a person who kills animals for sport, immediately sides with the animal in the video. Sorry, bud, that doesn't settle. You aren't surviving off the food you kill, so killing animals is purely a hobby with the added benefit of good eats. Spare me the bleeding heart.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Let me be more clear in my point, rather than play semantics with the nitpicking expert. I guarantee there was at least on person who posted disgust by this video, who wakes up at 4am, all giddy, puts on his gear, grabs his weapon, heads to the woods, hides in wait for an animal going on about its day, shoots that animal, and then brags about it.


Nah. It's like everything else. People see a video, introduce their own personal bias and distrust of human nature and assume it was some callous, viscious act, whole thinking they would be calm and collective under similar circumstances.

In truth, I imagine most would have acted exactly the same. I would have probably popped the moose the second time it charged. In fact, I think the snowmachiner showed great restraint.

His options were far far more limited than most people think and he didn't have much time to figure it out.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:30 pm to
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for the purpose of consuming the animal, yes

Not to be the contrarian, but deer meat isn't the purpose of going hunting. It's a nice byproduct, but it's not the purpose.
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you mean agitating an animal until it attacks then killing it, yes

I'm struggling to find a big difference that makes one terrible and one admirable. Two animals were killed. One was shot in self-defense after it was agitated (if you view it in the most negative light). The other was shot after it had been baited/fed for an entire year.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 8:31 pm
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