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re: how to solve the student loan crisis?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:01 pm to bdavids09
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:01 pm to bdavids09
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how to solve the student loan crisis?
its very simple, remove the government backing so banks have to get the money from graduates and not our hard earned tax money
that alone would stop the 12 year student loans for gender studies and white guilt virtue signalling courses
that way students will only get loans for real actual jobs that have a future employment outlook and income potential
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:07 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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need to start removing the degree requirement for non-technical jobs and stop using it as a screening tool.
You have to go to college to get a job in many cases because most decent jobs require a college degree.
This is one factor that many on here are ignoring. Most white collar jobs really don't need 4 years of higher ed to be trained for. Yet the companies require that 4 year degree to even be considered.
I agree that government backed loan programs are a huge part of the problem, but without degree requirements to screen applicants, most wouldnt even be taking out the loans in the first place.
An another answer on the high cost question is that the loan programs, EO/Diversity offices, legal, alumni begging offices, unnecessary new construction and services, etc all cost a lot of money. The actual education part is pretty low on the budget totem pole.
Potentially good news is that forward looking companies are getting looser with degree requirements as they realize that those with degrees feel entitled to more compensation (and need more due to the acquired debt) while an eager candidate without college can be easily trained and will be happy to receive the offered pay, partly bc they aren't saddled with monthly student loan payments.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:14 pm to bdavids09
If you do not understand how loans work, you may not be ready for college.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:19 pm to iheartchimichangas
I plan on living hard and dying before mine are even close to paid off. I win.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:57 pm to bdavids09
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how to solve the student loan crisis?
Stop giving out untethered student loans
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It's not just the schools.
Several businesses have positions that used to not require a degree but only specialization certs that were typically paid for by the company that now require a 4-year degree. I was helping one of my students look for something part-time recently and came across multiple administrative assistant jobs that "preferred" an associates or a 4-year degree. A fricking secretary doesn't need a degree.
It’s called a saturated market. Most jobs don’t require a four year degree. But because so many people get one now, businesses use it as a weeding out process.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:20 pm to bdavids09
Its a simple fix that no one wants. Loan on the value of the degree. Just like a car or a home. Higher paying degrees like science/medical get a higher loan rates. Low paying degree like education get lower rates. Default on your car, you lose it. Default on your classes, no more loans.
Who needs a $300k south african women’s cultural studies degree from stanford
Who needs a $300k south african women’s cultural studies degree from stanford
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:32 am to bdavids09
Because college kids these days want schools with lazy rivers and top of the line amenities. Somebody has to pay for that. Additionally, cut backs in state funding of colleges b/c of needs for that money to pay for other exorbitant social welfare programs has caused dramatic year over year increases in tuition.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:35 am to bdavids09
Crisis? get a job and pay it off, it may take 15-20 years but fine.
Also some need to put things in perspective, go to a college with 40K/yr tuition and get a low paying job.
Also some need to put things in perspective, go to a college with 40K/yr tuition and get a low paying job.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:37 am to H I McDunnough
quote:i don't disagree people put themselves into this hole but it's a serious problem. it's seriously delaying, uhh, higher quality people, from buying homes and having children, which will only accelerate the trash demographic trends we are seeing.
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What crisis? Pay your damn bills.
This 1000%. WTF are you people even talking about?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:39 am to bdavids09
What crisis? The fact that people took out the loan and can't pay it back is their crisis not everyone else's crisis!
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:39 am to bdavids09
I hate Biden and sure as hell didn’t vote for him but if he wipes out student loan debt I won’t be too mad about it.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:41 am to Antonio Moss
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It’s called a saturated market. Most jobs don’t require a four year degree. But because so many people get one now, businesses use it as a weeding out process.
Which is one reason why they need to pull the degree requirement for many non-technical jobs. Stop using it as a lazy screening tool. Companies would likely find more willing workers than people that think the job is beneath them "because they have a degree."
It's getting worse these days. Back when I was looking at chemist positions, a bachelors degree in chemistry gets you a lab tech position. Even some of those said "masters preferred".
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:38 am to TigerstuckinMS
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1) Stop giving out government secured loans. This is the single reason we're in this fricking mess. Government gets involved and people start grifting. Stop the grift and you stop the crisis.
2) This will force lenders to underwrite the loans appropriately based on risk of default and if they frick up on the risk assessment, it's their loss.
3) Colleges will be forced to compete for those limited dollars and prices will once again reflect the worth of the education they provide.
4) Wait 20 years for the current loans to be settled out with no change whatsoever in their terms.
This is the answer. The only other alternative is price controls on tuition which is the inferior option.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:40 am to Notnac
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Why is it a crisis? It wasn't a crisis when I paid mine off. It's a crisis because people take the loan with no intention of paying it back.
there is a social component of guidance counselors failing to adequately explain return on investment to people going to college, which in turn lets ignorant 18 year olds take out untenable loans that are only being given out because the loan is backed on default by our federal government.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:46 am to bdavids09
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why do colleges charge so much that people need crazy high loans
Because schools are not on the hook for any of these loans.
Make the schools responsible for 50% of the loan and you’ll see costs plummet and dumb shite like gender theory disappear
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:50 am to bdavids09
1. take the government out of the equation
2. Counsel for the student to make a smart decision about the degree they are seeking
3. Vocational programs need to make a comeback (college isn’t for everyone)
4. community college for electives
2. Counsel for the student to make a smart decision about the degree they are seeking
3. Vocational programs need to make a comeback (college isn’t for everyone)
4. community college for electives
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:23 am to Paul Allen
quote:FIFY
Because of government subsidized fully guaranteed student loans and low interest rates giving colleges zero incentives to actually control costs.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:51 am to bdavids09
Academia has been overpaid for a long time.
College: Where else can you pay for something so expensive with no guarantee that you'll get a job?
They need to get rid of certain degrees that have no real use in the world today.
Keep in mind..the professors don't only make money instructing (they don't TEACH, they instruct) they also make money hand over fist doing consulting work (re: engineering professors).
Bottom line: People still need to pay their loans. If you can't pay for a car, do you buy it and expect someone to bail you out? No.
College: Where else can you pay for something so expensive with no guarantee that you'll get a job?
They need to get rid of certain degrees that have no real use in the world today.
Keep in mind..the professors don't only make money instructing (they don't TEACH, they instruct) they also make money hand over fist doing consulting work (re: engineering professors).
Bottom line: People still need to pay their loans. If you can't pay for a car, do you buy it and expect someone to bail you out? No.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:05 pm to bdavids09
frick crisis pay your debts....thus, no crisis
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