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re: How to manage fussy Baby?

Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:23 am to
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:23 am to
I have a newborn too. 5 weeks old now. Something is making that baby uncomfortable when it lays down. From what I've learned that's going to be either gas or reflux.

There's a few things you can try that have worked for us.

1) Before night time bottle, give bath with lavender soap and this chest rub.

2) Try colic calm.

3) If you're strictly breastfeeding, then that's the best thing for the baby as it should ease gas and reflux, but if you're supplementing with formula try switching to a different formula with a stomach ease component.

Other than that, it's just how babies are sometimes. Just remain patient and remember it will pass. I never thought ours was going to get better, but he's going 5 hours between bottles at night now, and getting longer every day.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:26 am to
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Your own articles states that you should be careful drawing such conclusions from your "data"


Of course it does. Nobody is going to "recommend" you co-sleep, but the point is that the dangers are overstated.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7616 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:29 am to
Just let the kid sleep in his car seat and be done with all this nonsense. My god.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85364 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Nobody is going to "recommend" you co-sleep, but the point is that the dangers are overstated.


like you, I'm sure plenty of parents sleep with their infants and nothing ever happens

but my point is the risk isn't worth it

the baby can sleep right next to your bed in a bassinet if you want them close (this is what we did for the first 2-3 months)
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85364 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:30 am to
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Just let the kid sleep in his car seat and be done with all this nonsense. My god.



also not recommended

Posted by Eric Stratton
Faber College
Member since Mar 2015
2055 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:32 am to
Being the father of just an 8 week old: I can tell you that it sucks, it will get better and those damn swaddles have been an absolute life saver for us. It's only just a week ago that we got a full nights sleep.

Good luck and just look for the light at the end of the tunnel.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66368 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:34 am to
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but the point is that the dangers are overstated.

The issue is this is not a matter of dangers being "overstated." If there is even the smallest risk of SIDS from co-sleeping, and that risk is lessened by the alternative method, then it should be recommended the alternative to co-sleeping be used.

It's a child unable to roll over, save itself, or evaluate risk to itself. It lies upon the parents to protect that child at all costs until it is able to do the things above. And even then, they still protect them.

To say just because there is a small chance of SIDS occurring from co-sleeping, so it should be ok, and that risk be ignored, is asinine.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9005 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:37 am to
Our second daughter slept wrapped up in her swing from 1-6 months. We wore the motor out of it and had to re-place it. Went through a lot of batteries too but it was the only way she would sleep.
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:38 am to
Wow, you need to get that baby out of your bed. You will thank me later. We made this mistake with our first child
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7616 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:41 am to
If you have a big enough bed you can put this in between you. We had one and it worked great.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4565 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:18 am to
That looks dangerous.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:21 am to
quote:

The issue is this is not a matter of dangers being "overstated." If there is even the smallest risk of SIDS from co-sleeping, and that risk is lessened by the alternative method, then it should be recommended the alternative to co-sleeping be used.


That's the point of the article I posted. The bulk of data does not differentiate co-sleeping issues that were caused by fatties, druggies, pillows, babies on stomachs etc. The actual risk for a baby on a firm surface, on it's back, with parents is likely negligible.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 10:23 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:34 am to
It's beyond weird for you to keep advocating a new parent should take a risk with their baby because the risk, while definitely there and definitely fatal, isn't as big as some people think it is.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18746 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:37 am to
quote:

The actual risk for a baby on a firm surface, on it's back, with parents is likely negligible.


quote:

likely negligible.


quote:

likely


I don't know about you, but I like to liven things up by taking chances with all of my newborns when the chances of their death increasing is only likely negligible

Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:44 am to
Well - I guess it's not colic since you said the Pediatrician already said she is normal and healthy.

The most common reason they cry is that they are hungry.

Also, swaddling them nice and tight in a blanket makes them feel secure.

Good luck Dad.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14888 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Baby was otherwise a full term healthy baby. Parents not fat, drunks, on drugs or smokers. Just poor and uneducated. Likely figured they could save some money and just let the baby sleep with them.


When our baby was born she slept at the foot of our bed in pack and play from the baby furniture store. She slept in there for a few months and then we lowered it down since she was starting to stand up.
At one year she moved into her bedroom into her baby bed.


I sure miss her sleeping and drooling on my chest. It was almost magical.
Little angel.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:49 am to
quote:

It's beyond weird for you to keep advocating a new parent should take a risk with their baby because the risk, while definitely there and definitely fatal, isn't as big as some people think it is.


I'm not advocating anything. My point is that most of the people posting about co-sleeping have no idea what they are talking about.

You are dropping the word "fatal" in dramatic fashion. Let's be clear though, babies sleeping alone can have "fatal" consequences as well. The evidence that one is more "fatal" than the other when under the conditions I explained isnt there. They are both potentially "fatal".
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
3699 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:55 am to
Don’t worry by week 45 she will probably be sleeping in 4 hour intervals and this will all be a thing of the past. Only 42 more weeks.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85364 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:56 am to
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The bulk of data does not differentiate co-sleeping issues that were caused by fatties, druggies, pillows, babies on stomachs etc.


"the bulk of data"

2 studies that involved a total of 36 SIDS cases that involved co-sleeping

and one of the studies didn't go into the parents drinking or drug habits

your data is weak, just like your article stated

quote:

The actual risk for a baby on a firm surface, on it's back, with parents is likely negligible.


most adults mattresses are not that firm, especially not when compared to a crib mattress

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32979 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:01 am to
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At one year she moved into her bedroom into her baby bed.


Fuuuuck that. We put our son in his crib in his own room at 7 weeks.
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