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Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:28 am to TheFonz
Can I use her a-hole as a zero, or no?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:30 am to NATidefan
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Can I use her a-hole as a zero, or no?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:48 am to NATidefan
Same thing for me, got offer, took it to boss, boss wouldn't even consider negotiating, took the offer. Gotta be prepared to leave. If I would have been thrown a bone, I probably would have stayed.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:49 am to NATidefan
It is a good way to get canned.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:50 am to NATidefan
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What is the correct approach to try to stay at my current employer, but get a raise.
Be willing to leave if they call your bluff.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:51 am to NATidefan
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I'm the lone knowledgeable tech on about a 25 million dollar electronics production contract. No one but knows the product, how it works, etc really but me.
If I left they would be in pretty big trouble with it
I would find a way to remind them of this without it being the same time you ask for the increase. If you are certain they already know of it then don't worry about it. Don't leverage it, but hope they remember this.
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I was approached
I would definitely drive this point. They need to understand you are not active looking. If they think you are on a job search, then they may think, even if we give him the raise he will still continue to look.
Also, a good approach to asking for a raise is to ask for more responsibilities at the same time. It's a good way for them to "justify" giving you a raise incase your colleagues find out you got an increase.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:57 am to LSU6262
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I would find a way to remind them of this without it being the same time you ask for the increase. If you are certain they already know of it then don't worry about it. Don't leverage it, but hope they remember this.
They know, at least my boss and the engineers know.
I'm also one of two that has clearance in my area to perform some tests, etc that require that.
The engineers have talked about trying to get me moved from my tech position to join the engineering team. Something I would be interested if for a raise.
I know more technically about the products I'm over than the test engineers that are over them do. I'm the only one that's been doing it for 5 years and work on them daily.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:22 am to NATidefan
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The engineers have talked about trying to get me moved from my tech position to join the engineering team. Something I would be interested if for a raise.
This is your in. Would the job offered have these same responsibilities? Would your current boss still be your boss if you were to change to the engineering team?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:29 am to NATidefan
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Just inform them that I have recieved a offer I'm considering? (I would think this)
Sure... But what number are you going to use? How much much more money are they offering? If it's only 10k-15k they will more than likely match it.
If it's more, show them what you have done for the company that makes worthy of an increase and negotiate it.
In all honesty, you are better off leaving. Companies will pay you more to steal you from a different company versus your company continuing to increase your salary, because of eventually ceilings, especially without a new title.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:52 am to Chromdome35
quote:Do you feel like all of your employees under you are always paid at a fair rate to match their value?
As someone who has dealt with this type of situation for many years.
I have never given someone a raise in this situation. I always tell them that if they want to take the other job then they should.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:56 am to NATidefan
Request a sit down with your boss and supervisor and just talk to them like adults. Don’t hide it but you also don’t have to tell them you were hunting. Just tell them that you were approached by another company and was offered a job with a little more money but you enjoy where you are at and would like to stay. Can they at least match the pay bump.
When you start this path, be prepared to leave if they won’t or they won’t take you as seriously if another spot opens.
Most people who are worth a shite want the best for their guys. They understand an opportunity and whether they can manage the pay raise or not.
When you start this path, be prepared to leave if they won’t or they won’t take you as seriously if another spot opens.
Most people who are worth a shite want the best for their guys. They understand an opportunity and whether they can manage the pay raise or not.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:58 am to Chromdome35
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I have never given someone a raise in this situation. I always tell them that if they want to take the other job then they shou
I think that is the best time to have a conversation with the employee. You can talk about expectations, future plans, etc... things that go along with a raise.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:02 pm to NATidefan
I may soon be in a similar situation, but the people I work for can't just give me a pay raise. It doesn't work like that. There are things about my job that I don't like, having a bunch of out of scope work being tossed on me is the main area of frustration. How could I parlay an offer into getting out of most of this nonsense work?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:06 pm to shel311
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Do you feel like all of your employees under you are always paid at a fair rate to match their value?
The company I work for pays well, gives annual raises, and has good beni's.
If someone asks for a raise during the course of our normal conversations, I absolutely consider it; however, if someone comes to me and says I have another offer for more money will you match it, no.
Value is subjective, I've never met anyone (myself included) who didn't think they were worth more than they were currently paid. The question is, are they really?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:08 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
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I think that is the best time to have a conversation with the employee. You can talk about expectations, future plans, etc... things that go along with a raise.
I agree, use it as the basis for a conversation.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:16 pm to NATidefan
Be prepared to walk
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:18 pm to Chromdome35
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I've never met anyone (myself included) who didn't think they were worth more than they were currently paid. The question is, are they really?
no one is irreplaceable, but there have to be some spectacular conditions offered to make me leave where I'm at for just a few more pesos
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:18 pm to NATidefan
I’ve managed large teams for a long time. If it were me, you come to me with “I have an offer I’d like you too match” I’m planning your exit immediately. If you’re job hunting while on my payroll - that’s your business but don’t come advertising it. You get an offer and take it - no problem there either. However, you come to my office and ask for a raise with validation on why you feel you earn it. We can talk.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:21 pm to Chromdome35
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As someone who has dealt with this type of situation for many years.
I have never given someone a raise in this situation. I always tell them that if they want to take the other job then they should.
Why are you such an arse about it? Do most of them leave? Probably can't blame them if they do.
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