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Home to 4,605 orphan oil and gas wells, Louisiana seeks federal money to plug them

Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:41 pm
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Louisiana is home to 4,605 orphan oil and gas wells, some of them threatening the environment, and now plans to ask the federal government for a Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act grant to help pay the estimated $401.7 million cost of plugging them.

It's one of 26 states that told federal officials by the Dec. 30 deadline they want part of the $4.7 billion reserved in the law for plugging abandoned wells and restoring associated property. The effort is aimed at both cleaning up environmental issues at the well sites and, by plugging the wells, stopping the release of methane, the carbon-rich main ingredient of natural gas that's been linked to global warming.


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In requesting the states to apply for the money, President Joe Biden's administration said the plan was aimed at both its environmental benefits, especially for low- and moderate-income residents living nearby abandoned wells, and its expected economic benefits in an era of declining oil and gas service jobs.


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In its Dec. 23 declaration of interest in a grant, the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources estimated the state lost 12,256 oil and gas industry jobs between March 1, 2020, and Nov. 15, 2021, which represents a 23.4% reduction in that sector in Louisiana.


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If all of Louisiana's orphan wells were targeted for plugging, the effort could employ about 1,000 people fulltime for a year, and could reduce methane emissions by 558 metric tons per year, according to a 2020 report by Columbia University and Resources for the Future, a Washington D.C. environmental policy think tank.


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The Interior and commission tallies do not include 21,211 "idled" or "abandoned" wells in Louisiana and thousands of similar inactive wells in other states that are not considered orphan.

Under Louisiana rules, that includes wells where oil and gas are not being produced for a variety of reasons, including low oil and gas prices. Under a variety of state rules, well owners are not required immediately to plug wells that they are not abandoning, but they remain responsible for assuring the wells are not causing environmental problems.

In the past few years, the number of orphan wells in Louisiana has increased significantly, both because more older abandoned wells have been identified and as small oil and gas companies struggling with lower oil and gas prices have declared bankruptcy or otherwise abandoned ownership of them.


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In the next few weeks, Interior will issue a notice announcing how much money each state will be entitled to request under the grant program. States also may apply for an initial grant of as much as $25 million "to begin building out their plugging programs and remediating high-priority wells."


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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:44 pm to
I'll bet my bank account that 65% of any funds received will never go to actually p&a-ing wells.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:45 pm to
We should just plug them by filling them with politicians.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:45 pm to
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they want part of the $4.7 billion reserved in the law for plugging abandoned wells and restoring associated property.

Isn't it up to the lessee to restore the property once activities have ceased?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Isn't it up to the lessee to restore the property once activities have ceased?


Yes.. The problem is bankruptcies. Same thing is happening offshore.
These producers are getting very smart on subsidiaries that file for bankruptcy and emerge later with little to no debt. See Fieldwood..
Good article explaining
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Isn't it up to the lessee to restore the property once activities have ceased?


These are usually entities that have gone tits up decades ago.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:48 pm to
Louisiana got 99 problems and a….

Actually they have way more than 99 problems
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:51 pm to
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These are usually entities that have gone tits up decades ago.
And nobody seems to ever have an ire reserved for the oil companies.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Isn't it up to the lessee to restore the property once activities have ceased?


Sure, but the last Lessee/operator of record for these wells usually doesn't have a pot to piss in.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:52 pm to
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And nobody seems to ever have an ire reserved for the oil companies.


what?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:53 pm to
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These are usually entities that have gone tits up decades ago.


So the lessor wasn't aware that activities had ceased at the time?

It seems to me that if the lessor didn't hold the lessee to the terms of the lease, the lessor should have some liability. It shouldn't fall ENTIRELY on the hands of the tax payers.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:54 pm to
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help pay the estimated $401.7 million cost of plugging them.


Cost of plugging the oil wells:

401,000,000

Cost of Biden’s Build Back Better plan:

2,000,000,000,000+

They could give us the 400 mil but if they did that they’d only have

1,999,599,000,000 left
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 1:56 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:54 pm to
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So the lessor wasn't aware that activities had ceased at the time?

It seems to me that if the lessor didn't hold the lessee to the terms of the lease, the lessor should have some liability. It shouldn't fall ENTIRELY on the hands of the tax payers.

The same regulations that exist today didn't exist in the 1960's. I agree that the taxpayers shouldn't have to be on the hook, but chasing ghosts won't do you any good either.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21150 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:58 pm to
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The same regulations that exist today didn't exist in the 1960's.


Yeah, that's the thing with some of these legacy lawsuits. In some instances, yes, that well/facility/operator may very well have violated environmental laws, land contracts, etc.

But in other instances, they followed what the contracts and regulations were AT THAT TIME, which yes, are not as strict as if you negotiated a lease, surface agreement, and applied for a drill permit (especially if you need a CUP with it) in the past decade.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:58 pm to
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The problem is bankruptcies. Same thing is happening offshore.
These producers are getting very smart on subsidiaries that file for bankruptcy and emerge later with little to no debt. See Fieldwood..


True, but offshore everything defaults back to the original operator. There are some orphaned wells and facilities offshore where the original operator went bankrupt. However, the federal government already has funds set aside and is in the process of contracting the work to properly abandon. Louisiana, and most states don't have regulation in place to cover the abandoned wells hence the request for assistance. As crappy of a job as the fed government generally does, the oil and gas industry in the gom isn't really one of them.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:00 pm to
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The same regulations that exist today didn't exist in the 1960's. I agree that the taxpayers shouldn't have to be on the hook, but chasing ghosts won't do you any good either.

"Program Funding

Revenue for the Oilfield Site Restoration Program is generated from a fee on oil and gas production in the state which is paid quarterly by Louisiana oil and gas operators. The fee for full-rate production consists of one and one-half cents ($.015) for every barrel of oil and condensate produced, and three-tenths of one cent ($.003) for every (mcf) thousand cubic feet of gas produced.

The fund collects about $4.5 million each year.
"

LDNR's orphaned well program

Perhaps an increase from the paltry 1.5¢/bbl and 0.3¢/mcf might help.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:03 pm to
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"Program Funding

Revenue for the Oilfield Site Restoration Program is generated from a fee on oil and gas production in the state which is paid quarterly by Louisiana oil and gas operators. The fee for full-rate production consists of one and one-half cents ($.015) for every barrel of oil and condensate produced, and three-tenths of one cent ($.003) for every (mcf) thousand cubic feet of gas produced.

The fund collects about $4.5 million each year."

LDNR's orphaned well program

Perhaps an increase from the paltry 1.5¢/bbl and 0.3¢/mcf might help.

You think they won't pass that increase on to you?
You'd still be paying for it.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12120 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:12 pm to
“ I'll bet my bank account that 65% of any funds received will never go to actually p&a-ing wells.”

I’m not so sure about this. Worked with a nonprofit helping to get grants to decommission abandoned water wells. Funding was difficult because it didn’t score very high on the factors most environmental grants use. They have been pushing for this for years to help. I didn’t read the bill but I’m assuming this isn’t just for oil and gas wells?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:16 pm to
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And nobody seems to ever have an ire reserved for the oil companies.



Oil Company isnt trying to inject my child with a drug that causes myocarditis.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:18 pm to
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I’m not so sure about this. Worked with a nonprofit helping to get grants to decommission abandoned water wells. Funding was difficult because it didn’t score very high on the factors most environmental grants use. They have been pushing for this for years to help. I didn’t read the bill but I’m assuming this isn’t just for oil and gas wells?

P&A-ing a 10,000 ft oil well isn't the same as a 400 ft municipal/domestic well.

And I'm afraid you don't understand how this kind of stuff works in LA.
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