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re: Has there ever been a worse phrase than "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED"?

Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:21 am to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33324 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:21 am to
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THE SCIENCE IS ALREADY SETTLED

Which is damn hilarious when every time science shifts away from a long held theory, their go-to was ALWAYS "science is always evolving". (9 planets, Mendelism, 4 oceans, Darwins evolution, spontaneous generation, ad infinitum), Yet now when their biggest frauds are easily repudiated suddenly "the science is settled"


Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:22 am to
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Maybe today is the day we find out drinking bleach is suddenly the best thing you can do healthwise, but that isn't what has been observed thus far.
So, you've been drinking bleach to observe the effects to your health?

Damn, you are one stupid, brainwashed, moronic idiot.

Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7420 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:28 am to
FIFY
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It’s a propaganda phrase designed to stamp out dissent and discussion
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:28 am to
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It's on par with saying "Trust The Science!" sarcastically as if we shouldn't take advice from scientists because it might change someday.


Yeah, frick off, Blue Anon
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:29 am to
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I fricking hate that phrase. I had a libtard friend who would say that all the time about anything I said which he disagreed with.


I did once have a conversation with some assclown in a bar who said “Why think when you can listen to the experts?”

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:31 am to
Agree 10000%
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:31 am to
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You really trusted the science when you typed up this post as well, unless you think the internet works via magic.


There’s no such thing as “The Science™” you retard. There’s the scientific method and then there’s the data, of which you use interchangeably.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:33 am to
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Nah, I just think it's funny OP made a post about how we shouldn't trust science because during a political debate he got upset a over climate change and the covid shite.

It sounds like he should learn to not trust politicians rather than science.

After all, he trusted science that his electricity would work, his phone/computer would work, and the internet would work all before he took the initiative to make this post.

Does OP have a problem with climate change science, or politicians using that science to pass legislation that lines their own/their friends pockets?


Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9577 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:34 am to
the science of gravity is settled......

explain the difference in

centrifugal force,,,,,and centripetal force
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:40 am to
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the science of gravity is settled......


No it’s not and not even close to being settled. Einstein proved Newton wrong in developing his E=MC^2.

And if we truly understood gravity, then we should also know how to make antigravity, so truly an idiotic point for you to make.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9692 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:50 am to
Some science is settled.

Humans need oxygen to live.

Water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen molecules.

Atoms exist.

The earth rotates at a particular speed.

Light travels a particular distance over the course of an Earth year.



But that's not what you're on about....you're talking about environment. "Settled" means widely accepted as fact by the overwhelming majority of scientists who, through the scientific method, have been unable to prove a particular theory wrong.

A boulder may "settle" at the bottom of a river. It doesn't mean the boulder will never move, but it's sure as shite going to be settled there a really long fricking time until something comes along and is able to move it or eliminate it.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15890 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:56 am to
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“Why think when you can listen to the experts?”



And that's the difference between conservatives and today's liberals. One wants to be taken care of and the other wants to take care of things.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:58 am to
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Some science is settled.

Humans need oxygen to live.

Water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen molecules.

Atoms exist.

The earth rotates at a particular speed.

Light travels a particular distance over the course of an Earth year.


The earth's spin is slowing down.

Humans needing oxygen to live is not settled, it is just accepted as of now.

The speed of light in a vacuum is consistent from our observations
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:59 am to
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I think Trump listened to economists, infectious disease experts, and experts in other fields before he decided to shut down the whole country for 2 weeks.


Trump never shut down the country

Did this get retconned in a later season?

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88603 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:01 pm to
First line of that says listen to state and local authorities. fricking dunce
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:08 pm to
So you don't remember Trumps federal government setting up guidelines to when we should open things that included:
Regional Criteria:
Satisfy Before Proceeding to Phased Comeback

Symptoms:
Downward trajectory of influenza-like illnesses (ILI) reported within a 14-day period

AND

Downward trajectory of covid-like syndromic cases reported within a 14-day period

Cases:
Downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period

OR

Downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests within a 14-day period (flat or increasing volume of tests)

Here's your link TrumpWhitehouse.gov

LINK

Trump went with the best information he had at the time, not because the science was settled on covid.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24834 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:32 pm to
No because science is never settled, that is the nature of true science.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88603 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:08 pm to
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So you don't remember Trumps federal government setting up guidelines to when we should open things that included:


I remember proposed guidelines that were ultimately decided on at the state and local level, just like the link you posted says all over it

Try reading the shite you link before posting again.
Posted by tigerspin
Member since Dec 2008
1881 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:17 pm to
One of my favorite quotes about scientific consensus from a Michael Crichton speech:

“Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What are relevant are reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 1:19 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91125 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:21 pm to
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“Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What are relevant are reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”


sums up the climate change mob perfectly.
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