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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Godawgs1114
Member since Dec 2015
220 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:25 pm
Had to purchase some today to recharge the ac system in my truck. Wtf has caused the price to double in the past 4 years or so. Anybody know
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14259 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:30 pm to
I dunno but it's being phased out in home AC soon I'm pretty sure. Not sure if that applies to new vehicles at the same time.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26430 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:30 pm to
Good thing you didn’t need R22…
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56150 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
Walmarks was the cheapest I had found.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2871 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Had to purchase some today to recharge the ac system in my truck. Wtf has caused the price to double in the past 4 years or so. Anybody know




Wait till you have to pay for recharging a system with R1234y.
That is the crap all new vehicles are going to have in them (many already do).
A 10 lb. cylinder wholesale cost is $550.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19802 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:47 pm to
Never was used in homes get a clue
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11792 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:58 pm to
Wait till you have to use the new flammable refrigerants.....

Posted by UPGDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
569 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:06 pm to
Yep, in 2025 home/commercial air conditioning manufacturers will be going to R454b or R32 for most of North America.

But R134a is used in cars so not sure on that one. Supply and Demand issue I guess. And for the OP, it sounds like you have a leak.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13296 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Anybody know


I work in the refrigerant industry

Like everything else right now - refrigerant supply is low - demand is high

(US manufacturers can't keep up with demand)
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:09 pm to
I ha e a buddy that owns an HVAC business and he is charging people $75 per pound right now. I'm just waiting for my home AC to need to be recharged now. I always seem to need things when they're at the peak price.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13296 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I ha e a buddy that owns an HVAC business and he is charging people $75 per pound right now.


Your friend is ripping people off
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:17 pm to
Phase out to new refrigerants LINK
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11493 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:19 pm to
Funny thing we don't use propane because it is flammable, so I have been told...
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2014 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:23 pm to
Now for a fun fact. This has a high biocompatibility in the body and is used in the oral cavity. Coming from a medical device professional.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5707 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

But R134a is used in cars

This is correct. R410A is what they use now for home AC
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Wtf has caused the price to double in the past 4 years or so. Anybody know




People who make the refrigerents could not get toilet paper last year so they said frick it and went on strike...

Payback is a bitch
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:56 pm to
Wait till you have to pay for recharging a system with R1234y.
That is the crap all new vehicles are going to have in them (many already do).
A 10 lb. cylinder wholesale cost is $550.


R134a is being phased out so less produced equal higher cost.
1234yf is the latest and greatest due to it's non-ozone depleting, non-global warming, etc. etc.......but is classified as flammable. Rest easy, it must have direct flame for the aerosol to burn...remove the flame, no fire.

FIFY

1234fy
This has been in most automobiles since around 2016
10lb cylinder at $550...you must be quoting the wholesale price.
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