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re: For those gloating about oil:Falling oil means rising foreclosures in oil states

Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
I'm less worried about the effect that low oil will have on our economy than I am of its being an indicator of a bad economy.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
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There is a lot more to this field than chasing cranes. Anyone can come out here and do this job. That's why we're all paid so little, because it's so easy to find qualified candidates.. wait, this all started because we're "overpaid". If anyone could do it, the term "run off" wouldn't exist.


They were paid based on production and demand, hence why the layoffs are happening. That's very elementary economics. You speak as oil field workers are more exclusive than other hard workers in important blue collar jobs and they aren't.

Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
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so all the oilfield people are just going to start being criminals now?



if you reviewed applications for field guys you'd realize most already are
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
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.BUT the discussion on oil and gas and the greater implications on the economy and the trickle down effect are much more important than "what is oil field baw going to do?"

Yep, the bust will have a horrible trickle down effect on all businesses around South Louisiana. Every business around will feel it.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
That's the problem I think people are missing. The US and world economies are operating much differently than at that time...

And we are much more "coupled" to other countries than we used to be....such as China
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:54 pm to
The next couple of years could bring some very hard times for most of us. Things are happening globally that are pretty ominous
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:55 pm to
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13SaintTiger


when I have a hemorrhoid I'll call you... until then go hang out with the rest of the nurse chicks
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:56 pm to
china's bubble bursting + oil bubble popping are not a good combo for us
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:58 pm to
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there are 2 industries propping up our economy: oil and tech
I think that this is too narrowly focused since it doesn't consider the implications of the consumer and many other economic sectors benefiting from lower energy prices.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:59 pm to
Watch Saudi Arabia too. Things might get dicey this year
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:00 pm to
the biggest item I fear the most is INFLATION

the FED has been manipulating both the inflationary numbers and inflation has not hit YET with the massive money printing (QE) we did to "get out" of the recession

I think people are going to see how fake this "recovery" really was and that as soon as the next regime takes office shite may begin hitting the fan

Meanwhile Obama can just drop the mic and leave the stage with the arena burning around him
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:00 pm to
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when I have a hemorrhoid I'll call you... until then go hang out with the rest of the nurse chicks




I'll stick around. It's amusing to me how many of LA residents who have never left the state for anything more than a vacation thinks the whole world revolves around Louisiana.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:01 pm to
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What should people that work a dangerous job for 12 hour days in the elements all while sleeping in bunkbeds away from their families for weeks at a time make? What is the average wage they should make? So you think they should work these hard jobs away from their families and live like they are making $10 an hour because thats what you would have done right?



Because no one else makes sacrifices for their jobs
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
98736 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:01 pm to
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There is a lot more to this field than chasing cranes. Anyone can come out here and do this job. That's why we're all paid so little, because it's so easy to find qualified candidates.. wait, this all started because we're "overpaid". If anyone could do it, the term "run off" wouldn't exist.




There are plenty people that could be trained to do what most people out there do. The high pay comes in because there aren't many willing to spend half their lives away from their family to do it. That's what the over compensation is for, not because it's some job that only an elite group can do.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14885 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:02 pm to
That's funny. Just left a luncheon that went into great detail about how despite the low oil prices, Lafayette and Lake Charles both are doing better than ever in other markets. Baton Rouge I know is bringing in more business with IBM and the water campus of the south or whatever the hell it is called.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294984 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:03 pm to
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INFLATION


Globally we may be looking at a deflationary depression
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:03 pm to
I do agree on that, the medical sector will be staying put for the forseeable future

What sort of fees will be paid by the inevitable single-payer healthcare system is yet to be seen, however
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62337 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:05 pm to
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There are plenty people that could be trained to do what most people out there do. The high pay comes in because there aren't many willing to spend half their lives away from their family to do it. That's what the over compensation is for, not because it's some job that only an elite group can do.


Agreed. I'm pretty well compensated, but I will be the first to admit that there is nothing particularly special about what I do that other people couldn't necessarily do if they were willing to put in the time and money to learn.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:05 pm to
This is probably more of a money board type of thing, but that's what I cannot seem to wrap my head around

How can a country like the U.S. increase it's money supply by like a trillion dollars - and not experience inflation?

I mean, it's a little weird. Like the calm before the storm...
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:05 pm to
thanks for the links, will check them out when i get home
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:16 pm
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