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re: For parents with teenage sons taking supplements for athletics.

Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6440 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:45 pm to
Times will change by the time my son is that age but I've taken most every supplement out there for working out. What you have to watch out for is PEDs now. With the advent of social media, they have accounts pushing these on to young teenage boys. Creatine itself would be fine but he's only 8th grade. I don't think I tried that until my junior year of high school. Stress eating and lifting and let the strength and size come naturally for as long as possible.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6745 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:51 pm to
I only give my son high quality whey protein and BCAAs

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11152 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:52 pm to
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am i? or am i just calling out people just spouting BS?


What? That after having done it at that age we don’t think creatinine is necessary? It’s experience and an opinion man. Nothing personal.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:58 pm to
Naturally he will never get to 250 at 70” unless he fat fricks himself. At 205 he is on top end of weight he can handle before he fat fricks himself.

He is getting terrible advice. Have him sign up and post on the ah&F board so we can guide him.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:00 pm to
Dude I’m 41 and taken creatine for two decades… there are a lot of benefits besides muscle and strength. It’s should be considered a staple health supplement.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98750 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:01 pm to
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I get adding weight to then convert to muscle


Fat doesn’t convert to muscle
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44883 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:02 pm to
He now has a belly and bubble butt. He is on the path to fat fricking himself. My brother played college ball and is a personal trainer. He’s tried to talk him down and he won’t budge. I agree he’s getting horrible advice somewhere. Not sure I want TD, in general, giving him advice

I will def let him know to check out the board.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:02 pm to
Yep, her son is fricking up. Not to mention once above 20% body fat your muscle to fat gain ratio becomes skewed
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:05 pm to
He can email me if he would like, I can point him to some stuff that may help him walk it back. Lsu777td

Gmail

He is fricking up big time and is gonna end up with loose skin if he gets to 250. Big time. Been there and done that and got the loose skin to show for it
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78037 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:10 pm to
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So do you let a middle schooler drink milk? Protein supplement is the same thing
It is? No adulterants in the powder?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10677 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:16 pm to
Vitamin D(ianabol)
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:17 pm to
Do you know how whey protein is made? Is a damn food product, yes it’s no different than eating meat.

wtf you think they put in it?
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66723 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:23 pm to
For a wrestler he doesn’t need to be putting on too much weight, get him on ephedra
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78037 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:27 pm to
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Do you know how whey protein is made? Is a damn food product, yes it’s no different than eating meat.

wtf you think they put in it?
Yes I know how it's made. I really was just asking.

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Earlier this year, a nonprofit group called the Clean Label Project released a report about toxins in protein powders. Researchers screened 134 products for 130 types of toxins and found that many protein powders contained heavy metals (lead, arsenic, cadmium, and mercury), bisphenol-A (BPA, which is used to make plastic), pesticides, or other contaminants with links to cancer and other health conditions. Some toxins were present in significant quantities. For example, one protein powder contained 25 times the allowed limit of BPA


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They detected 70% of protein powders had lead in it, 74% detected levels of cadmium, and 55% detected levels of BPA (which is used to make plastic). Arsenic was also detected in these protein powders
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:31 pm to
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He’s currently at 200 lb at 5’10” and wants to get to 250 lb within a year.


What’s he wanna be?… a bowling ball?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:31 pm to
That’s why you get a brand that is made in a GMP facility and does 3rd party testing.clean label tested plenty that were clean and true nutrition who I linked earlier 3rd party test their product and will provide the lab test.

Most of the ones the clean labels tested that had that were importing the powder from china that was very low quality and purity
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4976 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:33 pm to
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My nephew played under Steve Spurrier at UF and creatine was taken by most if not all of the players.
How many of them were 14?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36631 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:34 pm to
Explain to me why a 14 year old should not take creatine, cite the sources
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16770 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:40 pm to
Creatine is NOT a good idea for wrestlers.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44883 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:49 pm to
Just sat down with my son and read this whole thread together. It was great for us to open up the discussion about creatine and his current goals with bulking.

He says he’s hit 210lbs and agreed that it may be time to cut. His hesitation is wanting to bench 310 and is worried cutting back on mass and energy will prevent hitting that goal. We talked about eating fewer meals and incorporating more cardio in 3 hours before his lifting to bring his body fat % back down but doing it over the next 3 months to lose 15 lbs and get back to 195.

I’ll do the research on creatine and we will discuss together after his dad and I are more informed. We are closer to middle ground than we have been in months. Thanks.
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