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re: Florida Family; Electric car battery replacement costs more than car… 14k
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:08 pm to goofball
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:08 pm to goofball
EQS 580
Normally yes but these are too new to be used.
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You and I both know the kind of people who buy used Mercedes Benz can't afford to put tires on them, much less change the batteries.
Normally yes but these are too new to be used.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:09 pm to Cosmo
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Totally worth it to stick it to putin and save the planet
Except it's not saving anything. The carbon footprint of an electric vehicle when it hits the showroom is many times higher than that of a gas burner, due to the high emissions required to mine and manufacture batteries.
I've seen figures anywhere from 150 to 200k miles before the electric car becomes more carbon beneficial. Most people don't keep their cars that long. And that assumes that an electric car will even go that far before needing replacement.
We discovered this wonderful fuel so many years ago. A gallon of it will move my fat arse and a 4k lb vehicle for 30 to 40 miles. And it will do it for only about 4 bucks.
That kind of energy potential is astounding, and we take it for granted. For something non-renewable, we treat it like we have absolute contempt for future generations given the amount we waste.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:11 pm to deltaland
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This is the biggest issue with EVs. Those batteries last 5-7 years
Maybe some of the early EVs, but the new ones will go past that. 7 years @ 15,000/yr (US average) puts it at 105k. Degradation data is still pretty strong well past that unless you're supercharging every other day.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:11 pm to BowDownToLSU
One of the cells in my 2013 Volt was failing at right under 100,000k miles. Dealer quoted me $8,900 to replace the cell, or $9,100 for a new batttery. They ended up fixing it under warranty.
I did some digging after and found that I could have found a used module for $400 and it probably wouldn't have taken more than a few hours to replace. Total cost under $1,000.
I did some digging after and found that I could have found a used module for $400 and it probably wouldn't have taken more than a few hours to replace. Total cost under $1,000.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:16 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Here's a tip. Take your gas money savings, and put it in a fund for future battery replacement.
Except you have to pay for electricity to charge it, and cost per mile its not really cheaper
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:16 pm to BowDownToLSU
We've been down this road before. Electric car owners can't math.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:22 pm to BigWillyMetry
EV companies should offer a monthly service fee with their vehicles that includes battery replacement. Say 200 a month. 2400/yr so you’ve paid for the battery by the time it’s bad. It would make it seem less painful. The service would also cover any other issues that arise.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:26 pm to Grievous Angel
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For something non-renewable, we treat it like we have absolute contempt for future generations given the amount we waste.
There is no proof that oil isn’t renewable. We could use it faster than it’s being replaced, but it’s not a finite amount.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:37 pm to deltaland
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EV companies should offer a monthly service fee with their vehicles that includes battery replacement. Say 200 a month. 2400/yr so you’ve paid for the battery by the time it’s bad. It would make it seem less painful. The service would also cover any other issues that arise.
It is supposed to cost less to operate a EV, paying a $200/mo battery maintenance fee is going to negate that selling point.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:39 pm to BowDownToLSU
Comedy of Errors for this poor girl ..
1. Ford
2. Electric Ford
1. Ford
2. Electric Ford
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:57 pm to EA6B
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It is supposed to cost less to operate a EV, paying a $200/mo battery maintenance fee is going to negate that selling point.
It's also time for a mileage tax equivalent to the gas tax, and no more credits for buying one.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:57 pm to chrome_daddy
quote:That can't be true. If there's 1 example of a car dying in 7 years and a $15 battery, then that means it'll happen to every single EV!!!!
Thinking about buying a used Prius as I have access to a huge amount of wholesale cars. My MIL has an 08 w 140k miles never replaced the battery, still gets great mileage.
I'm seeing these replacement cost for Prius batteries. Needless to say, MUCH lower than that implied by the OP.
$500 for labor costs per RepairPal and 1200-1500 for the battery. Sorry, that doesn't sound to bad to me.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:58 pm to hojo
quote:And most EVs do as well.
The relevant point is that today most ICE last more than 10 years without having to put $14000 worth of work into them.
Again, we're taking 1 example and making that the norm.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:59 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:Tesla Model S cars are selling for generally around $30 at 8 or 9 years old.
Is there a resale value on a 8 year old EV, or do you just throw them away if you don't want to pay for replacement batteries?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:00 pm to kywildcatfanone
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no more credits for buying one.
Tesla's been out for a while now and everyone else is running out fast.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:02 pm to deltaland
quote:This is false, completely made up or just living off of what you knew 15-20 years ago. The aforementioned Tesla Model S is a great example. They've been in production 9 years, and while it has happened, it is extremely rare and an absolute outlier.
This is the biggest issue with EVs. Those batteries last 5-7 years
There are other cars, the Prius, etc. They do not need to have the battery replaced in 5-7 years, that is not at all correct.
quote:Everything you said here is irrelevant because you started off on a false premise.
So any EV will either need a 14k dollar battery when you pay it off or it’ll be worthless as a trade in.
You can put a new gas engine in a truck for half that. Not to mention with proper maintenance an ICE can last decades.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:03 pm to deltaland
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and cost per mile its not really cheaper
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:06 pm to shel311
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And most EVs do as well.
Shellie, don't start this bs again. That is not an honest answer to that question with that statement.
EV manufacturer stock is being propped up by government subsidation. That's why Pelosi's continued investing in it because the funds have been allocated.
Federal endorsement for EV's is the American equivalent of Sri Lanka's 100% organic farming policy that eliminated all chemical fertizliizers.
Both aren't sustainable ideas and are just complete bs.
Has anyone received that Tesla Truck yet that they pre-ordered?
The Grand Tour showed that the Rimarc's battery combusted for 72 hours continually after it crashed. That's a better battery than whatever is in a Tesla. I wonder what the emissions are on a lithium battery fire?
All your statements are just wishful thinking.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:09 pm to hometownhero89
quote:You do realize statements aren't true "just cause" you make them right?
Shellie, don't start this bs again. That is not an honest answer to that question with that statement.
Can you show me the proof that you have to buy a new battery at $14k in "most" EVs? Since it's so true and honest, show me how you know that.
quote:It'll be out next year. If a delay in production meant it'll never happen, then Tesla would have never produced a single car by now.
Has anyone received that Tesla Truck yet that they pre-ordered?
quote:Should be easy for you to show me where I'm wrong, but I bet you can't and won't. You'll just say, "BUT THEY CANT LAST 10 YEARS" and think you proved me wrong.
All your statements are just wishful thinking.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:10 pm to deltaland
quote:So I'm gonna have an 8 year warranty on the battery AND pay $200 a month for what exactly?
EV companies should offer a monthly service fee with their vehicles that includes battery replacement. Say 200 a month. 2400/yr so you’ve paid for the battery by the time it’s bad. It would make it seem less painful.
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