re: Fire reported at Motiva plant in Convent, LA

Yea, a lightning strike in the plant followed by fire is going to sound like an explosion to everyone. It's all semantics anyway. Some violent shite happened and now we have a big arse fire.

I don't think the reactor blew apart though. Probably had a leak somewhere near by on a high pressure line and lightning lit the leak and made a big leak

Because you're bragging about tap dancing on the internets. You have to be mad about something.

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Why was the parking lot flooded?

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Because the current amount of rainfall was not accounted for during planning of the parking lot you dumb fricker

I'm not familiar with that exact unit, but everything always fails to depressurization. Even if the controls are fried, you either loose control air and the valves open, or loose communication and the valves open.

It's just so much volume under so much pressure that it takes a really long time to blow down. All you can do is block the unit in and let it burn and wait.

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There should be a switch in the field and in the control room. But those would depend on the Emergency controls DCS working.

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I am talking more along the lines of just closing a valve.

if it is indeed a high pressure line. i don't know squat about plant life

But can you give a speech, tap dance and administer fat lips all at the exact same time?

Edit: I forgot to add dishing out empty threats on the internet. My bad.

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I am also great at giving fat lips and after dinner speeches

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Grow up pussy and stop derailing threads before you get hurt

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Yea, a lightning strike in the plant followed by fire is going to sound like an explosion to everyone.

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I didn't even hear the thunder. The only thing that gave it away was people running. I thought it was because of the rain, but then saw the unit going up. I thought it was a tornado at first seeing the sky change to dark black, but then saw the flame and sprinted to the gate.

The way it works is you close off all of the lines into and out of the unit, isolate the equipment that's on fire as close to the fire as possible, and wait till everything in that system burns out. The relief valves will send it to the flare to be burned, but it can only go so fast. There's a whole lot of volume under a whole lot of pressure and it just takes time to get all that down to atmospheric pressure so that you can start dealing with it.

Depending on exactly what's burning and where it is, they may let it burn and just contain it, to avoid a big release. All the shite in the system has to come out one way or another.

[quote]Not uncommon during an emergency at a plant. You can have all the drills you want but when something like this happens, nobody remembers which staging areas to go to. They just get the frick out of harm's way and don't really care about the "headcount". It's very hard to get your headcount exactly right with hundreds of people all over the plant. Hopefully this is the case here.

I kind of alluded to this earlier and appears its exactly what happened.








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