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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:56 am to musick
This is one of my biggest fears.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:02 am to WallsAllAroundMe
The basic metaphysical argument Musk is trying to make has actually been around forever, though of course it did not originally make reference to computers. The original argument is called "The Demon," and posits that the world as you know and experience it does not actually exist, and every single sensory input that you receive has actually been generated by a demon intent on tricking you. Descartes' famous "cogito ergo sum" statement is actually part of his attempt to respond to the argument of The Demon and prove that the world is real and does not just exist inside his mind. How much he did or did not succeed is still up for debate today, and will be forever, because The Demon (and by extension Musk's argument) asks a question that, by definition, cannot be answered.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:03 am to Darth_Vader
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Other than being totally insane and complete horseshite?
Probably horseshite but it is horseshite that is being taken seriously enough by physicist to warrant investigations.
Here is a link to a debate about the subject hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson : LINK
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:29 am to musick
Genesis 1:27
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Is this not a simulation?
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Is this not a simulation?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:34 am to Tiger Vision
This explains the UCLA shooter. He thought he was playing Goldeneye on N64.
Also, Bruce Jenner thought he was playing Mario Kart.
Also, Bruce Jenner thought he was playing Mario Kart.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:35 am to Scruffy
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Dude is losing his touch on reality.
this goes back to descartes i think therefore I am.
this isn't new, and completely possible. I just hope I can re-gen.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:39 am to musick
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:01 pm to Scruffy
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Dude is losing his touch on reality.
I don't see this as a bad thing. I think all brilliant people deal with the theoretical and it's one primary reason they push further than we do. Most of us are easily stopped by a few roadblocks in life. Musk and others like him see an alternative reality in which they move fluidly in 3d. We see life in two dimensions.
A little delusion is a huge bonus for creativity.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:22 pm to musick
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together; goo goo g' joob.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:29 pm to musick
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Nick Bostrom who happens to be one of Silicon Valley’s favorite philosophers
LINK
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ARE YOU LIVING IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION? BY NICK BOSTROM [Published in Philosophical Quarterly (2003) Vol. 53, No. 211, pp. 243-255. (First version: 2001" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">
This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.
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A technologically mature “posthuman” civilization would have enormous computing power. Based on this empirical fact, the simulation argument shows that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) The fraction of human- level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage is very close to zero; (2) The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor- simulations is very close to zero; (3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one. If (1) is true, then we will almost certainly go extinct before reaching posthumanity. If (2) is true, then there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations so that virtually none contains any relatively wealthy individuals who desire to run ancestor-simulations and are free to do so. If (3) is true, then we almost certainly live in a simulation. In the dark forest of our current ignorance, it seems sensible to apportion one’s credence roughly evenly between (1), (2), and (3). Unless we are now living in a simulation, our descendants will almost certainly never run an ancestor-simulation
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:48 pm to musick
If so, whoever is playing my character must be bored to tears.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 1:34 pm to ThinePreparedAni
The Animus in Assassins Creed is based on this:
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The Animus (plural: Animi) is a virtual reality machine rediscovered, developed, and sold by Abstergo Industries. It allows the user to read a subject's genetic memory, and project it onto an external screen in three dimensions.
The machine was notably used in Abstergo's Animus Project and the Animi Training Program. The former analyzed the genetic memories of several select subjects, usually to gain information on the Assassin Order or on Pieces of Eden, while the latter was used for the training of Abstergo employees.
A newer model of the Animus, known as the Animus Omega, was developed and distributed commercially by Abstergo as an entertainment console. It was compatible with video games consisting of recorded memories, and was intended to be used to influence the general public on the behalf of the Templars.
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:01 pm to musick
Between this and the waitbutwhy article on AI, I'm terrified
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:12 pm to musick
He should spend his energy on better batteries.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:16 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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If so, whoever is playing my character must be bored to tears
My player must get some sick satisfaction from making me beat off all the time.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:28 pm to Novae
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Reminds me of this great reddit nosleep story:
LINK
For the record, I agree with him.
Thanks, I won't sleep tonight.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:46 pm to Tiger Vision
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Genesis 1:27
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Is this not a simulation?
God is just playing the next- gen WoW.
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