Started By
Message

re: Elon Musk: "We are probably living in a Video Game simulation"

Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:55 am to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15898 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:55 am to
The old Descartes dilemma....



I think, therefore I am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:56 am to
This is one of my biggest fears.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9980 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:02 am to
The basic metaphysical argument Musk is trying to make has actually been around forever, though of course it did not originally make reference to computers. The original argument is called "The Demon," and posits that the world as you know and experience it does not actually exist, and every single sensory input that you receive has actually been generated by a demon intent on tricking you. Descartes' famous "cogito ergo sum" statement is actually part of his attempt to respond to the argument of The Demon and prove that the world is real and does not just exist inside his mind. How much he did or did not succeed is still up for debate today, and will be forever, because The Demon (and by extension Musk's argument) asks a question that, by definition, cannot be answered.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Other than being totally insane and complete horseshite?


Probably horseshite but it is horseshite that is being taken seriously enough by physicist to warrant investigations.

Here is a link to a debate about the subject hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson : LINK
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3859 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:29 am to
Genesis 1:27
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Is this not a simulation?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137948 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:34 am to
This explains the UCLA shooter. He thought he was playing Goldeneye on N64.


Also, Bruce Jenner thought he was playing Mario Kart.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 11:35 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Dude is losing his touch on reality.


this goes back to descartes i think therefore I am.

this isn't new, and completely possible. I just hope I can re-gen.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9800 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:39 am to
a lot of people here immediately putting down something their don't understand
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4921 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:44 am to
That's one long arse game
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292834 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Dude is losing his touch on reality.


I don't see this as a bad thing. I think all brilliant people deal with the theoretical and it's one primary reason they push further than we do. Most of us are easily stopped by a few roadblocks in life. Musk and others like him see an alternative reality in which they move fluidly in 3d. We see life in two dimensions.

A little delusion is a huge bonus for creativity.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12486 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:22 pm to
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together; goo goo g' joob.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Nick Bostrom who happens to be one of Silicon Valley’s favorite philosophers



LINK

quote:

ARE YOU LIVING IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION? BY NICK BOSTROM [Published in Philosophical Quarterly (2003) Vol. 53, No. 211, pp. 243-255. (First version: 2001" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">

This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.


quote:

A technologically mature “posthuman” civilization would have enormous computing power. Based on this empirical fact, the simulation argument shows that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) The fraction of human- level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage is very close to zero; (2) The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor- simulations is very close to zero; (3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one. If (1) is true, then we will almost certainly go extinct before reaching posthumanity. If (2) is true, then there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations so that virtually none contains any relatively wealthy individuals who desire to run ancestor-simulations and are free to do so. If (3) is true, then we almost certainly live in a simulation. In the dark forest of our current ignorance, it seems sensible to apportion one’s credence roughly evenly between (1), (2), and (3). Unless we are now living in a simulation, our descendants will almost certainly never run an ancestor-simulation

Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15316 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:48 pm to
If so, whoever is playing my character must be bored to tears.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 1:34 pm to
The Animus in Assassins Creed is based on this:

quote:

The Animus (plural: Animi) is a virtual reality machine rediscovered, developed, and sold by Abstergo Industries. It allows the user to read a subject's genetic memory, and project it onto an external screen in three dimensions.

The machine was notably used in Abstergo's Animus Project and the Animi Training Program. The former analyzed the genetic memories of several select subjects, usually to gain information on the Assassin Order or on Pieces of Eden, while the latter was used for the training of Abstergo employees.

A newer model of the Animus, known as the Animus Omega, was developed and distributed commercially by Abstergo as an entertainment console. It was compatible with video games consisting of recorded memories, and was intended to be used to influence the general public on the behalf of the Templars.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4930 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:01 pm to
Between this and the waitbutwhy article on AI, I'm terrified
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134942 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:12 pm to
He should spend his energy on better batteries.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37320 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

If so, whoever is playing my character must be bored to tears

My player must get some sick satisfaction from making me beat off all the time.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Reminds me of this great reddit nosleep story:
LINK

For the record, I agree with him.



Thanks, I won't sleep tonight.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:42 pm to
Shroom
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Genesis 1:27
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Is this not a simulation?



God is just playing the next- gen WoW.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram