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re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:26 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:26 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:this is definitely a thing that is happening.
and many of those trashy as frick young white families, to use a horrible phrase but a fitting one, will climb into the middle class and their progeny will have the same outlandish ideas about what an appropriate mate is for them that the kids of upper middle class families have today.
always thought americans' denial of a social class system was to our detriment. mobility is good, but i think most people would be better off having a solid understanding of who they are/what they came from. it's not all economic.
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:30 pm to Supermoto Tiger
You are missing out on a wonderful, satisfying, amazing experience.
Sex with the same woman can extraordinarily gratifying, if it's with the right woman.
Marriage and commitment are fantastic.
If it's that boring, maybe it's you?
Sex with the same woman can extraordinarily gratifying, if it's with the right woman.
Marriage and commitment are fantastic.
If it's that boring, maybe it's you?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:32 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Its an economic thing...the "lower" classes (economically) seem to always figure out procreation...and many of those trashy as frick young white families, to use a horrible phrase but a fitting one, will climb into the middle class and their progeny will have the same outlandish ideas about what an appropriate mate is for them that the kids of upper middle class families have today.
The people in this ilk are gravitating towards the same issues as the black population.
Most children out of wedlock, parents never married or divorced, etc.
People underestimate how damaging it is for the stability of society to have so many people who not only live in unstable households, but everyone they know lives in the same situation.
Then you have people like Cam Newton, Tyreek Hill, Nick Cannon, etc. Pumping multiple women with kids they'll never be present enough to create healthy behaviors yet brag about it like their DNA is worth shite.
Elon Musk is another one. A portion of his kids will be fricked for sure.
This culture is only doomed for ruin and it has never failed to stifle a society when the culture dominates.
White people emulate ghetto culture and mock the Leave it to Beaver culture and they have no clue why one is bad and the other isn't as far as societal stability.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is definitely a thing that is happening.
always thought americans' denial of a social class system was to our detriment. mobility is good, but i think most people would be better off having a solid understanding of who they are/what they came from. it's not all economic.
AMEN...truer words never spoken. Our first house was a 2/1 of about 880 square feet. It was the first "house" anyone in my wife's family had ever owned, she grew up in a mobile home. I grew up in south Atlanta apartments. Owning a home was a BIG step up from where we came from. Fast forward these 30+ years and that 2/1 880 sqaure foot house won't do....our current home is nealry 5000 square feet, 5br and 4 ba. There are 4 of us in it. That little house on the west side of Atlanta would be unthinkable as anything other than a rental until something better comes along today. The "American Dream" is not dead nor unreachable, what it is is unrealistic. We are getting close to retirement....our neighbors are in their mid 30s and living like that. They have to be in hock up to their chins and have to be worried as hell about it. People who know where they came from and what real success looks like are still happy as clams and find a way to have a family.....there just ain't that many of them.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:34 pm to Upperdecker
No what this tells me is that vast majority met in high school or college, prob 8 out of 10 of those couples had some sort of knowledge of each other before entering real world at 23. The other 2 out of 10 met through the connections of the 8 of 10.
If you were single at age of 24 and had to move to a new city with knowing few people, you could be rich tall and handsome and still have a hard time.
If you were single at age of 24 and had to move to a new city with knowing few people, you could be rich tall and handsome and still have a hard time.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:37 pm to oogabooga68
You sound like those guys on FB that never went to college that call their wife smoking hot and then I click the picture and she's overweight and ugly lol. Don't think guys with actual smoking hot wifes go around saying that on internet
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I think these trends impact this type of person the most. due to apps and social media, the 24 year old girls of yesteryear who would date/marry him are messing with 33 year olds who drive a foreign car and can take them to nice places occasionally.
outside of the religious and/or culturally conservative who are dating to marry, there won't be much interest in a normal 25 year making that little money. definitely not as much as there "should" be.
It really is troubling. I feel like the stereotypical Jewish Mother "when are you going to bring a nice girl home" but I have stopped asking him about it because it was obvious it was an issue he was not at grips with. he doesn't need any pressure from me, all he needs is love and understanding and he has that. I HOPE they figure it out....and I suspect most will to some degree....but many will not and will miss out on the most rewarding part of life in my experience. I would not be 25 again for all the years it would add to my life. Now, if I had my current income and my 25 year old body??? Forget about it LOL....
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:42 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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, there won't be much interest in a normal 25 year making that little money.
This is another reason young men won't consider going into the trades. I know it is rumored around here that every pipefitter in the US is making $150k a year but in reality the average is probably in the neighborhood of $50k a year. When the average 25 year old woman says the minimum income she would date is $100K a year they are talking about late 30 early 40 men....very few 25 year olds making that kind of money.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:43 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I think these trends impact this type of person the most. due to apps and social media, the 24 year old girls of yesteryear who would date/marry him are messing with 33 year olds who drive a foreign car and can take them to nice places occasionally.
It’s scary how these 30s pedophile dudes groom these 24 year old teenagers
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:43 pm to AwgustaDawg
I’d be more scared for my son if he wasn’t already able to have girls fall over him now at a young age.
With the way things are trending, he better be able to find one he likes in high school or early into college / post HS work because, by that point, most of the good ones are taken or start seriously jacking up their standards.
With the way things are trending, he better be able to find one he likes in high school or early into college / post HS work because, by that point, most of the good ones are taken or start seriously jacking up their standards.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:44 pm to Fletch1985
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Never put the pussy on a pedestal
Young men have no control over it, the owner of the pussy has it on a pedestal that is out of their reach. Most of the owners of it have no business having it there but there it is. Those who do have any business having it there have NO problem finding enough 40 year olds to provide what they need.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:46 pm to teke184
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I’d be more scared for my son if he wasn’t already able to have girls fall over him now at a young age.
I remember back in school how all the girls would hang around the gay kids
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:48 pm to Ribbed
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A lot of guys now wallow in helplessness. They spent so much time on the dudebro websites they drank the kool aid and now think every woman is a cardboard cutout of a media influencer and what's a loser like them to do?
Step 1 is stop being a victim. Stop caring what every woman thinks. To imagine they don't like you is to make it so. It's the weirdest dynamic of the relations between men and women. Women are attracted to men who casually and politely ignore them or their opinions.
Many young men also have irrational expectations...as do many young women. If it ain't a super model they ain't interested and if it is they are afraid to approach it. I get it, hot is hot and always has been, but most men are not hot themselves...most of us, men and women, are about average....but that is unacceptable. It has always been that way to some extent but most people get over it, or did, as teens. Not anymore, it lasts, apparently, into their 30s at which time very few men or women are much of a catch physically...
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:51 pm to Hetfield
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Height is one of the most important aspects for a man with the women of today unfortunatel
I think this is total BS. Most women want a guy taller than them. That’s been true forever. But since most men are taller than most women, height doesn’t matter all that much. Sure women would choose taller all other things being equal, but height is less important than how cute a guy is, confidence, his job prospects, how funny he is, how kind he is, etc.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:55 pm to HouseMom
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To be clear, I said that "MODERN feminism" is the issue. The initial women's movement was to ensure women weren't property of their husbands. It was so we could vote, own property, have an equal education, and hold jobs other than teacher/nurse/secretary. The point was for us to be able to do whatever we wanted and make decisions for ourselves.
Modern feminism is some kind of radicalized cult that is, at its core, very anti-man as opposed to pro-woman. That is not the movement that "allowed" me (as you say) to work outside of the home.
Spot on. I am a child of the 1970s. I remember the tail end of the early feminist movement and it was absolutely necessary. I can vividly remember thinking girls sucked at math because I had heard teachers, male and female, tell them so for years. My wife is a product of that early movement....she works, makes a good living and fully expects me to do my share of shite around the house...and we have been happily married for many years.
That has morphed into an anti-male sentiment in just about every aspect of life. Not for men my age, we still hold almost all of the power etc etc....but for our sons? They have been vilified and marginalized in much the same manner as our sisters and mothers were...it is painfully obvious when you consider the ill manner shite some of them get up to because, at the end of the day, they are men and as such if they ain't domesticated they will act accordingly. This is not something that we can change because we want to, it is steeped in our nature. I do not think most young women are overly satisfied with the situation either...they are just as trapped in it as young men are.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:57 pm to pelicanpride
Ngl, could just be a weird sample size or me posting my L’s, but I’m fairly short. The women I dated in the past year are all shorter than me. Of the ones whom I know who they dated after me, every single one was dating someone over 6ft tall, lol
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:59 pm to dcrews
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I very stupidly requested it and found out I had sent out matches/likes to over 1,100 women, only received something like 25 matches back of those 1,100 (only like 5 of which responded to my initial message) and eventually went on dates with 3 different women.
I don't know my stats, but I would guess my ratio is probably somewhere close to the "average."
Which puts more pressure on guys to have every message "count" in the sense that if you're not super engaging, funny, "cool", etc. in what is often the bland initial conversations on these apps, the women can move on from you very quickly.
And then you're stuck swiping again, praying that the next 3/10, that you would never approach in real life and are only swiping right on due to a feeling of obligation, notices you enough to grace you with a message.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:59 pm to pelicanpride
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I think this is total BS. Most women want a guy taller than them. That’s been true forever. But since most men are taller than most women, height doesn’t matter all that much. Sure women would choose taller all other things being equal, but height is less important than how cute a guy is, confidence, his job prospects, how funny he is, how kind he is, etc.
Wouldn't say the height thing is total BS. It's a factor, like anything else. Some women put a lot of emphasis on it (I've seen dating profiles that say don't message if you're under 6'), and some don't care at all. Hell they won't even let you donate sperm if you're not a certain height because women don't want short kids.
Most women probably care at least a little bit and with everything else being equal the taller guy will get the first look, but you can make up for it with your other attributes as you mentioned.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:59 pm to StringedInstruments
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Understanding how to emotionally connect with women is a win.
Wanting to is the secret...but the woman has to be interested in that connection as well. Most young men want sex and emotional connection is secondary at best. Most learn to pretend otherwise and eventually mature to the point where that connection is their main goal. Young women, however, seem to have as their goal the desire to get whatever they can or to belittle a young man. There is no way that is satisfying for them but somehow thats what their culture has taught them.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:05 pm to pelicansfan123
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And then you're stuck swiping again, praying that the next 3/10, that you would never approach in real life and are only swiping right on due to a feeling of obligation, notices you enough to grace you with a message.
Why do you do that to yourself? frick a dating site.
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