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re: Do you think JFK was murdered by the government?

Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Yes, people who don’t follow truth real of being flat-earthers. They also real of thinking that Biden is doing good for our country.


Uh, what?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:07 pm to
Don't you see? Lack of evidence JUST PROVES THERE'S A CONSPIRACY! It's all right in front of you!
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:49 pm to
Right you are, a lack of evidence always proves the case! Cheerio!
Posted by theamericandynasty
Member since Sep 2023
36 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:34 pm to
What I find fascinating is how much info. the government still has redacted.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:00 am to
Read the GOVERNMENT FILES
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:03 am to
Your ignorance is baffling.

C. The Committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.


PS. Water is wet.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 7:05 am
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:51 am to
STILL WAITING.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:23 am to
Still waiting on you to disprove facts.

I’ll wait
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:45 am to
Show me evidence of a second shooter. Period. You’ve shown no facts.

Also since you believe that the CIA, mob, Cubans and Russians didn’t do it. Who did.

I know your grasp of things is weak , but there could be conspiracy and Oswald still shot alone.

Still waiting.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:51 am to
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What I find fascinating is how much info. the government still has redacted.


Yep. And the entire bullet calculations are now debunked.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:55 am to
Wrong. Provide your facts.

Don’t worry I’ll wait.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:09 pm to
I’ve done that above.

Still waiting for you or are you changing the narrative again.

Still waiting for your evidence of a second shooter.

Proof. 4 Medical Doctors and an AMA article cited above. Single shooter from behind.

Chicago Tribune 1992:

Breaking a silence of almost 29 years, the two Navy pathologists who performed the autopsy on slain President John F. Kennedy denounced as hoaxes the various conspiracy theories about Kennedy`s assasination.

Kennedy was killed by two bullets fired from behind and above that struck him in the back of the head and neck-just as the Warren Commission concluded in 1964-the doctors said in lengthy interviews to be published in the May 27 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association.

''I am tired of being beaten upon by people who are supremely ignorant of the scientific facts of the president`s death,'' said Dr. James Humes, who was in charge of the autopsy performed on the night of Nov. 22, 1963, at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md. He was assisted by Dr. J. Thornton Boswell.

In an accompanying JAMA article, four of the doctors who vainly tried to save Kennedy`s life at Parkland Hospital in Dallas also spoke publicly for the first time, saying nothing they saw in the emergency room refutes the Warren Commission`s report.

The four-Drs. Malcolm Perry, who tried to aid Kennedy`s breathing by cutting an airway in his throat, Jim Carrico, M.T. Jenkins and Charles Baxter- were especially critical of Crenshaw, who was a junior resident at Parkland at the time Kennedy was brought in.

Although Crenshaw claimed he played a major role in treating Kennedy, none of the four doctors who worked on the president recalled Crenshaw even being in the emergency room. Crenshaw said that based on his vantage point he was able to conclude that Kennedy was shot from the front and that autopsy evidence later was altered.

''His (Crenshaw`s) claims are ridiculous,'' Baxter said. ''The only motive I can see is a desire for personal recognition and monetary gain.''

JAMA editor Dr. George Lundberg said he has been urging the two Navy pathologists to tell their story for seven years to counter the growing number of conspiracy theories surrounding Kennedy`s assasination.

''We would hope the interviews with the pathologists and doctors would put an end to the Kennedy assasination theories,'' Lundberg said. ''But it would be naive to think that there won`t still be people imagining. conspirators here and there. In a free country anybody can say what they want.''

Humes said he was totally in charge of the autopsy and that no one interfered with his work. He denied that the military or FBI was in control, as well as other accounts of what went on in the autopsy room that are used to bolster conspiracy theories.

The most important part of the autopsy was the examination of Kennedy`s skull, which proved that the fatal bullet came from above and behind the president, he said.

When a BB hits a window it creates a small hole on the outside and a beveled crater on the inside as broken glass follows the path of the projectile, Humes noted.

The same pattern was found in Kennedy`s skull, he said. There was a small hole on the skull`s outside where the bullet entered, and a crater on the inside of the skull produced by bone that was knocked loose, he said. This pattern was repeated as the bullet exited through the right side of Kennedy`s head.

''This is a law of physics and it is foolproof-absolutely, unequivocally, and without question,'' Humes said. ''The conspiracy buffs have totally ignored this central scientific fact, and everything is hogwash

This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:23 pm to
Wrong again. You’ve provided 0 evidence that Oswald acted alone and there is no conspiracy. You’re ENTIRE 1992 post is irrelevant since JFK files were released& analyzed AFTER that year. Try again ignorant keyboard warrior.

I’ll wait.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:55 pm to
There is expert testimony on the facts of the shooting in the article. Oswald alone. I never said there wasn’t a conspiracy which is possible , but that doesn’t mean 2 shooters.

Irrelevant about the releases docs because these experts saw the body. saw the body. The evidence. Nothing else released can change that.

Where is your evidence of 2nd shooter? You have none. Neither did the morons from the gubment.

Now you’re smarter than the JAMA and multiple medical doctors trained in autopsies. Ok haha.

Still waiting.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:10 pm to
Yet again, I never stated 2 shooters. I proved there is a conspiracy. Pay attention, read, and stop posting ignorant and outdated information keyboard warrior. 1992 testimony is irrelevant.

I’ll wait for your updated proof that you have yet to provide.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Yet again, I never stated 2 shooters.


quote:

JFK was assassinated by more than 1 shooter. Period.



Your exact quotes! You can’t even remember your own BS.


Here is your precious committee quote you selectively edited. It SAYS, Oswald acted alone and that his shots killed Kennedy.

Period as you like to say. It also says there MAY have been another shooter, but they have NO CLUE who and they were certain this person didn’t shoot the president. A conspiracy which means any additional person in furtherance, was possible. But they have not a clue. BUT it wasn’t any of the previously mentioned actors. They have no real idea if there really was a second shooter even in action because there is no real proof except some sound echos. In a canyon of buildings. :lol:


Table of Contents

Title Page, Commission Members, Transmittal Letter
Summary of Findings and Recommendations
Introduction
I. Findings of the Select Committee on Assassination in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy

I.A. Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at President John F. Kennedy. The second and third shots he fired struck the President. The third shot he fired killed the President

I.B. Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations
I.C. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy
I.D. Agencies and departments of the U.S. Government performed with varying degrees of competency in the fulfillment of their duties. President John F. Kennedy did not receive adequate protection. A thorough and reliable investigation into the responsibility of Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination was conducted. The investigation into the possibility of conspiracy in the assassination was inadequate. the conclusions of the investigations were arrived at in good faith, but presented in a fashion that was too definitive
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:49 pm to
Wrong. Try again. I’ll wait ignorant keyboard warrior.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6808 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:53 pm to
You deny your own quotes and your precious committee language?

We’re all still waiting for your proof since you definitively stated Kennedy was “killed by 2 shooters”.

Waiting.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5103 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:56 pm to
Wrong yet again dumb arse. Still waiting for you to prove there is no conspiracy. Something you have yet to do.

Don’t worry I’ll wait.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49608 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Old Man Kennedy promised to rein in Robert's A.G. attacks in exchange for JFK getting the Illinois vote. Which put JFK over the top. Robert was not reined in, actually increasing the pressure as Atty. General. The Mafia then coordinated with the CIA, who JFK was committed to taking down due to its excesses, and Oswald was the hired monkey. How do you explain Ruby getting so close to the most important prisoner in the country at the time?


This is how I’ve always felt it was. The mafia had many reasons.
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