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re: Do you consider Mandeville a “suburb” of NOLA?
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:32 pm to Swagga
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:32 pm to Swagga
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Y’all better stop flooding uptown for Mardi Gras, attending saints games, and coming for all the festivals then. I think most anyone would consider it a suburb.
This. Mandeville and the Northshore are almost big enough they should be getting their own shite… should have had minor league baseball by now
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:38 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Don’t if it meets the technical definition but enough people that live in Mandeville commute and work in NOLA that calling it a suburb makes sense
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:55 pm to SaintlyTiger88
You could also consider it a suburb of East Baton Rouge Parish, the largest parish by population.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:57 pm to Swagga
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Y’all better stop flooding uptown for Mardi Gras, attending saints games, and coming for all the festivals then.
We don't! Nola is a cess pool of filth.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 7:45 am to Klondikekajun
That proved my point. The traffic situation back then necessitated a change in the toll collection because of the volume of people using the bridge daily to go from Metairie back to Mandeville/ Covington in the afternoons.
Also the construction of the flyover at Causeway and I 10 helped to alleviate traffic in the mornings coming from the Northshore. Because if you remember at I10 things could get messy at the butterfly that was there .Getting to I10 West or East was an adventure. Get on the exit. It became one lane and you also battled everything coming from S. Causeway as well as from the West.
There is a lot more commercial now in W St Tammany so the volume has calmed down, but to suggest that Mandeville/ Covington is no longer part of the metro area is really not true. It's like what Frisco is to Dallas albeit at a much calmer level.
Also the construction of the flyover at Causeway and I 10 helped to alleviate traffic in the mornings coming from the Northshore. Because if you remember at I10 things could get messy at the butterfly that was there .Getting to I10 West or East was an adventure. Get on the exit. It became one lane and you also battled everything coming from S. Causeway as well as from the West.
There is a lot more commercial now in W St Tammany so the volume has calmed down, but to suggest that Mandeville/ Covington is no longer part of the metro area is really not true. It's like what Frisco is to Dallas albeit at a much calmer level.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 7:51 am to 777Tiger
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you could place the state of Connecticut over the DFW metroplex and it wouldn't cover it, every place is considered a 'burb
DFW is one of the most sprawled metropolitan areas in the country while CT is situated in one of the most densely populated regions in the country. Both aren’t really comparable.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 7:55 am
Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:38 am to SaintlyTiger88
Absolutely not. Mandeville is 30 miles away from New Orleans and everything it represents, for a reason. Conservative, Christian, White, Low Crime, Good Schools, Nice roads, Clean, you know, Anti-New Orleans.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:45 am to lsupride87
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Mandeville no longer meets the threshold of being in the Nola MSA and being a suburb
Why do you get to decide what a suburb is? A statistical area and suburb are not the same thing. There doesn’t have to be a right or wrong here, ut can just be a discussion. Its a little weird that you are talking about feelings, but you are framing this as mandeville “not meeting a threshold”, but it’s really because the area has picked up a greater share of the economic activity. This has led to greater “suburbanization” in the general sense.
As you noted, there have been certain shifts that have made Nola less of the center it once was. I would argue that the result has led to more codependency of the entire SELA region. You are basically arguing that there are two completely adjacent metro areas, it’s not crazy to view it as one combined metro area.
But in its simplest form, a suburb is just a smaller community close to a city, which Mandeville is.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:58 am to Blueghost1978
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Absolutely not. Mandeville is 30 miles away from New Orleans and everything it represents, for a reason. Conservative, Christian, White, Low Crime, Good Schools, Nice roads, Clean, you know, Anti-New Orleans.
Some of y’all act like all of that is exclusive to West St Tammany and you can’t ever find that anywhere else
Be honest, it’s all about the lake and the distance, but you didn’t want to go too far away because you still love going to the Dome on Sundays
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
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In the 90s mandeville had over a 50% commuter rating to Nola. Under 20% now
That’s because a lot of those people are retired now
Mandeville is basically a large senior citizens community
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:19 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Clearly you have not spent any time trying to get in and out of Pelican Park on the weekends recently.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:17 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Mandeville is basically a large senior citizens community
It blows me away that people with zero knowledge about anything are given free rein over a keyboard.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:17 am to AquaVitae
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Clearly you have not spent any time trying to get in and out of Pelican Park on the weekends recently.
Dunno.
Everything there is closed by 8pm.
Feels like Del Boca Vista FLA
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:47 am to lsupride87
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No. Mandeville is no longer a suburb of New Orleans because it has fallen under the 25% daily commuter threshold
I’d like to see how they calculate that stat, because I have no doubts that at least 1 in 4 workers is crossing that bridge every day
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:48 am to pjab
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Through the 90s (especially early 90s), the Northshore was completely different entity from NO with very little cross pollination aside from a few vanpools crossing the bridge.
Mandeville was a heavy commuter town from the 80’s on
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:50 am to fallguy_1978
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It's pretty far away to be considered a suburb to me. Damn near an hour drive in light traffic. It's almost as far as Hammond is from New Orleans
40 minute drive in light traffic. Now do some suburbs of Houston, Dallas and Atlanta
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:55 am to lsufan9193969700
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Ummmm, no we don't. We hate it and don't want to be associated with it.
Until you want to go to Mardi Gras, saints games or a good restaurant
Posted on 10/20/24 at 2:09 pm to chalmetteowl
People in ST Tammany live in a state of denial.
The same pathologies that everyone thought they were running away from hitched a ride on the moving vans and made the trip across the lake.
People thought they were going to a safe place only to find a flourishing and ever growing subculture of teenage drug abuse and just as high property crimes like car thefts and break ins.....and home break is.]....pedo rings....unexplained murders....police routinely violating civil rights.
Only difference is that most of the crime is white on white and mostly middle class to upper middle class types doing the drugs, selling the drugs and doing the break ins, etc and people like former sherriff types engaging in pedo stuff.....so that makes it all better. At least there aren't a whole lot of blacks doing it.
The same pathologies that everyone thought they were running away from hitched a ride on the moving vans and made the trip across the lake.
People thought they were going to a safe place only to find a flourishing and ever growing subculture of teenage drug abuse and just as high property crimes like car thefts and break ins.....and home break is.]....pedo rings....unexplained murders....police routinely violating civil rights.
Only difference is that most of the crime is white on white and mostly middle class to upper middle class types doing the drugs, selling the drugs and doing the break ins, etc and people like former sherriff types engaging in pedo stuff.....so that makes it all better. At least there aren't a whole lot of blacks doing it.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 2:51 pm to bee Rye
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Until you want to go to Mardi Gras, saints games or a good restaurant
I hate Mardi Gras--pure trash! I haven't been to a Saints game since 1994/95 and don't watch them. We have incredible restaurants in the non-trashy sections of the state. Try again.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 2:55 pm to lsufan9193969700
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I hate Mardi Gras--pure trash! I haven't been to a Saints game since 1994/95 and don't watch them
Then why are you even in this thread?
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We have incredible restaurants in the non-trashy sections of the state.
Who is “we”? And name these incredible restaurants. I love to travel and try new restaurants
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