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re: Dealing with Teenage daughters

Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:34 pm to
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I would have just not come home if my parents told me that.


that's fine too, have to prioritize
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29856 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:40 pm to
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. It is far easier for a young girl to find someone who will say what they want to hear in that area than it is for a young boy

this isn’t even true - do you work with kids at all? Most boys are catered to and get every single material thing that they want.


I think you are missing his point. I think his point is that it is easier for a girl/young woman to find a sugar daddy than it is for a boy/young man. There are far more older men who will provide a young woman with a place to stay and support in exchange for sex than there are older women that will do the same for young men. I'm not saying it doesn't happen the other way around but if you hear of an 18 year old shacking up with a 24-30 year old (or older) then in most case the older person is male.

There is a reason that a vast majority of May-December relationships involve an older man with a younger woman.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20407 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Great, my 17 year old daughter told me she hates me.
Waited till she was 17? Great job.

Not joking one bit, great job. 13-15 was hell for both of my daughters, and they were great kids who have grown into responsible adults.

Only advice I can give is talk to your wife, and stick together. If you give ground they’ll take more, if you show disagreement with your wife or vice versa they’ll use it against you. Children are master manipulators with daughters being the best at it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:52 pm to
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this isn’t even true - do you work with kids at all? Most boys are catered to and get every single material thing that they want.


You have missed the point entirely. And what stranger is going to promise a young boy a new car or something if only he will move in with them? Not many. Girls do not act a fool over material things, they may seem to be but the driving force is emotional support, not things. Things may be tied to that emotional support....a nose piercing, for example, that the girl thinks will make her more attractive. Procreation to females require some form of attraction, usually tied to emotion, that simply does not exist at the same level in men. There is an obvious biological reason for this, men can and do hit it and leave it while a woman is subject to at least nine months of time to think about their choices.

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so you’re saying girls want to have sex more than boys do - that’s news to me


Not at all, I suspect the desire is pretty close to equal. What I am saying is tossing a 15 year old boy out of the house is not as likely to allow him to fulfill his desires as it is should one do the same thing to a 15 year old girl. Again, 99% of those accused of statutory rape are make and 95% of their victims are female. Even accounting for societal differences that make it less likely for women to be accused of statutory rape that is still a significant difference. A young boy on the street is unlikely to find it easier to get laid than a girl the same age would. The risks for impacting HER life long term is far greater than it is his...he may be emotionally scarred, he is not going to get pregnant. It simply is not the same....both sexes would face homelessness and hunger and victimization...the threat of the latter is FAR greater, and supported statistically, for a young girl than a young boy.

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we are not unique in the animal or plant kingdom,
yes we are - we have cognition


ALL Animals have cognition, it is not unique to Humans. All animals learn to some degree. The only reason any life exists is the sake of existence which requires procreation.

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ONE reason to be alive and that is to procreate.
except for gay people, plus there are many people who may play the game but don’t really (and maybe shouldn’t) want to have kids.


You are equating emotion and biology. They are not one and the same. Gay people have sex for the same reason straight people...because they possess an instinctive need to procreate...it is the foundation of sex drive at its base. Emotionally they are not attracted to a partner who they can actually achieve the desired end result with. The actual counterpoint would be an asexual person, someone with NO desire to have sex of any kind with anyone. This is widely attributed to emotion and not biology. I don't know if this is always the case but I suspect it is in the majority where the outlier would statistically insignificant if it exists at all.

MOST people start having sex, today and since the beginning of time, WAY before they are ready to have kids. That does not mean that the instinct is absent in us at that time. It kind of enforces that idea actually...most people are capable of reproducing WAY before society deems it appropriate. This is a societal construct, not one of biology....and is based in sound reasoning considering the societal expectations of procreation. Biologically we are able to procreate far earlier in life than societally or emotionally we should be doing so.

Masturbation is also indicative of this....the behavior is observed in utero from time to time. Procreation is instinctive and the sole explanation for the existence of live of any sort. It is the reason all things live, it is not the purpose of all living things....

I understand this is very reductive, there are obviously many things about life which are not in any manner tied to the instinctive requirement to procreate. That is not the reason we exist, that is the purpose of our existence....
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20407 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:54 pm to
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I would have just not come home if my parents told me that.
That’s funny.

Assuming you managed to get home after my wife who wouldn’t have slept got through being glad you’re ok would be giving you a rundown of the consequences.

Not a conversation you’d enjoy.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13963 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:02 pm to
Tell her when she supports herself 100% financially she can then have total control of her decisions. Otherwise, this is just a 17 y/o bitchy daughter moment.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58304 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:05 pm to
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, he is not going to get pregnant
and this right here is the answer to it all

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Gay people have sex for the same reason straight people...because they possess an instinctive need to procreate..
no because it feels good - that’s why birth control was invented bc ppl wanted to have sex without procreating
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4928 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:07 pm to
Word of advice from the dad of three grown daughters; don’t sever that line of communication. They’ll come back. Usually when they have kids of their own and start experiencing adult challenges they begin to realize what idiots they were. Mine all apologized for the drama they produced when they thought they were the center of the universe.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98750 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:09 pm to
Look at what I was replying to dumbass
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:11 pm to
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A man would hard pressed to earn a living fricking....almost any woman bent that way could


this is either the most monumentally myopic and intellectually lazy take possible or I was seriously bamboozled by my high school guidance counselors... sex was never presented as an option for my future.


I suspect it would be a rare school district which did do that BUT life teaches most people that it is a reality in all cultures and all nations....it is estimated that as many as 40 million people worldwide do indeed earn some part of their succor through sex and 32 million of those are women....its just a fact of life, unfortunate or not depending on one's perspective. It is far more likely for a woman to earn some part of her succor than it is for a man....and is an obvious function of market forces and supply an demand...far more supply of men willing to hump anything that moves than women....
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6319 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:27 pm to
I made three of those.

Believe me when I tell you, it's not the one telling you that who you need to worry about. That's about as natural as the sun setting in the west at that age. That's just a 17 year old female doing 17 year old female shite.

Remind her of it in ten years.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:31 pm to
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I suspect it would be a rare school district which did do that BUT life teaches most people that it is a reality in all cultures and all nations....it is estimated that as many as 40 million people worldwide do indeed earn some part of their succor through sex and 32 million of those are women....its just a fact of life, unfortunate or not depending on one's perspective. It is far more likely for a woman to earn some part of her succor than it is for a man....and is an obvious function of market forces and supply an demand...far more supply of men willing to hump anything that moves than women....


Gas, grass, or arse; nobody rides for free, or so I've heard.

I don't know why they are taking this as "women must do this" or "women will do this". I took it as, should they decide to go this route, they will find far more men receptive to the notion than the other way around.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:31 pm to
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far more supply of men willing to hump anything that moves
if this is the case, being a male prostitute may be in your future
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:37 pm to
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this isn’t even true - do you work with kids at all? Most boys are catered to and get every single material thing that they want.
What?
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:41 pm to
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far more supply of men willing to hump anything that moves


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if this is the case, being a male prostitute may be in your future


More like it's the reason why it's referred to as the world's oldest profession.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58304 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:43 pm to
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This isn't remotely true at all.
for you and Scruffy - yes it is!!

Especially with minority populations

I know quite a few women that dote on their sons, it’s disgusting
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:46 pm to
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for you and Scruffy - yes it is!!


I work with children daily.

The contrast between how girls and boys are treated is stark.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58304 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:47 pm to
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The contrast between how girls and boys are treated is stark.
really? Like what?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:50 pm to
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really? Like what?
Well, for starters, the “treat the princess with kiddy gloves” and “suck it up young man” stances are rife, especially within minority communities (Latino and black).

Hell, there are stereotypes around those viewpoints for a reason.

And it is especially evident when a father is present.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 3:52 pm
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