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re: Creepy STM teacher fired possibly NSFW twitter link

Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:16 pm to
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Maybe I'm different than most people, but I don't mix business and personal relationships. I don't really talk about my personal life with my co-workers (other than a comment here or there),


So you don't have any break room talk? Chat about your kids and their kids over lunch? Talk about the ball game from the weekend?

Yeah, that's werid. And a little serial killer-ish.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:17 pm to
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So you don't have any break room talk? Chat about your kids and their kids over lunch? Talk about the ball game from the weekend?


Why would anyone? Thats stuff I share with very few people. Sure not talking about it at work.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2622 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:18 pm to
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are you asking this under the assumption that this was an extortion plot or that this was an actual grooming type incident

What I wrote assumes there was an extortion plot at some point. At a minimum, that's the rumor.

I guess there are three possibilities:

1. No extortion. Whole thing is BS.
2. There was extortion but only after it became clear that Coach Creepylap had his eyes on Brooke.
3. The whole thing was basically a honeypot operation from the get-go.

Under none of these scenarios is the teacher any less guilty or not morally culpable. If scenario 3 is the reality, then I think we can agree that Brooke was also in the wrong.

Under scenario 2, I think I give Brooke a pass. At worst, she got a little overzealous, Chris Hansen-style.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:19 pm to
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I would hope a teacher care more about students than a boss cares about employees.


Absolutely not, and they tell prospective teachers not to get personally involved.

Most just can't help themselves and have a savior complex.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Under none of these scenarios is the teacher any less guilty or not morally culpable. If scenario 3 is the reality, then I think we can agree that Brooke was also in the wrong. Under scenario 2, I think I give Brooke a pass. At worst, she got a little overzealous, Chris Hansen-style.

yeah i agree with everything you said 100%.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40189 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:21 pm to
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no,
teach the class, that is your only job!
and you do NOT GET TO have a RELATIONSHIP.
you are there to teach and maintain order
not to teach social anything! not to be their friend!


You must have hated the tv show "Boy Meets World"

Do you think Mr. Feeney was a groomer?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40189 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:23 pm to
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You're being obtuse now. Saying "good morning" is not personal


I'm trying to figure out where you are drawing the line. What's the difference to you between polite and personal?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:23 pm to
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You must have hated the tv show "Boy Meets World"

Do you think Mr. Feeney was a groomer?


Its a tv show, a scripted performance and isn't real
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36285 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:23 pm to
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So you don't have any break room talk? Chat about your kids and their kids over lunch? Talk about the ball game from the weekend?

Yeah, that's werid. And a little serial killer-ish.


I work remotely, my clients are all 1000+ miles away from me. But, we do chat via conference calls multiple times per week.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26222 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Dude obviously has problems with sexual impulse control. He won’t be able to weasel into high schools anymore, but that lack of impulse control isn’t going away.

He may end up digging ditches, but it won’t surprise me if it’s eventually from inside the prison system

Yeah, if you got busted doing something like this once already and didn't learn your lesson, there is likely no hope for you with controlling impulses.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38130 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:26 pm to
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I manage relationships with my clients, I'm a consultant. I establish a rapport with clients without getting "personal".

I think youre boundary of "personal" is probably fine upon reading your posts. I disagree with you on the teacher attending events thing but thats about it. (although i really dont do that either, I just dont necessarily see a problem with it.) I dont think we disagree as much as i initially thought
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58867 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:27 pm to
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I work remotely, my clients are all 1000+ miles away from me. But, we do chat via conference calls multiple times per week.



when you see and work with the same people daily for months/years, you're going to develop personal relationships with some of them if you're not some sort of anti-social freak
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38130 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Not your job to get between parents and kids, call the cops

me helping them out of those situations was going to admin. I wont get involved in fights here much less that shite.
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(cringe!!!!!!) No

i mean... okay
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especially NO

being personable and relatable isnt a bad thing.
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but there are none, teachers now feel they have the same right to my kids as we do as parents

I will stop here, but can't help wonder a lot of questions about you.

stay in your lane
well considering you know absolutely nothing about me how about you stay in yours?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36285 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:31 pm to
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What's the difference to you between polite and personal?


IMO, there's a huge difference between polite and personal. You can be cordial and polite without creating a personal relationship with someone.

An example of an overstep is one that was mentioned earlier in this thread. A poster asked about a teacher talking to a student about their piano playing and attending a piano performance by the student. That's just weird, and crossing a boundary, IMO.

Any sort of contact outside of normal school sanctioned hours is weird, and crossing a line.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133151 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:34 pm to
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An example of an overstep is one that was mentioned earlier in this thread. A poster asked about a teacher talking to a student about their piano playing and attending a piano performance by the student. That's just weird, and crossing a boundary, IMO



Wait...a teacher taking an interest in a student's extracurricular development and choosing to support that student in their endeavor is weird and crossing a line?


If they play basketball and the teacher encourages them and attends the game, that's fine, but if they encourage the same with piano, it's creepy?


I don't get this take
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36285 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:35 pm to
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when you see and work with the same people daily for months/years, you're going to develop personal relationships with some of them if you're not some sort of anti-social freak


I've had jobs before where I wasn't this far removed from "co-workers", but I still had boundaries. Sure there were some surface level "how's your family" conversations, but we weren't hanging out after work hours or anything. I don't go to work to make friends, I have enough friends outside of work. I'm a pretty affable person, and I don't make it awkward but I also don't offer up a ton about my personal life outside of work.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36285 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Wait...a teacher taking an interest in a student's extracurricular development and choosing to support that student in their endeavor is weird and crossing a line?


If they play basketball and the teacher encourages them and attends the game, that's fine, but if they encourage the same with piano, it's creepy?


I don't get this take


If my daughter's male math teacher attends her piano recital, or her basketball game (specifically to see her), that's fricking weird.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38130 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:37 pm to
I see where he's coming from with one being in school and one being out of school. I think the issue lies in the ability to see things like individual music recitals done in school. A lot of schools dont offer the ability to see these done in a school setting, and when they are it's during school hours (at least from what I've seen here).
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1287 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:43 pm to
how funny, what a coincidence:

maybe he was

abused often become abusers
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1287 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:48 pm to
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but there are none, teachers now feel they have the same right to my kids as we do as parents

I will stop here, but can't help wonder a lot of questions about you.

stay in your lane
well considering you know absolutely nothing about me how about you stay in yours?


the problem is teachers, who, by and large, are not as smart as they think they are,

getting involved in "student relationships" aka grooming, if you realize it or not.

They ARE NOT YOUR KIDS.
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