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re: Cop spits in man's face. No charges. Man who was spat on, gets arrested

Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:26 am to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:26 am to
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I simply cant believe youve never noticed actual reporters gathered on the sidewalk, because they know they cant just go up to the door to ask questions of a homeowner involved in a "breaking news" case


Wrong. Unless you have a gated fence around your yard, your walkway up to your front door is considered in the public and access is implied. If you specifically ask someone to leave your property then, yes, they are trespassing if they refuse.

The reason reporters and camera crews set up off property is because they know they will be asked to leave and just avoid that issue.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:29 am to
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Wrong. Unless you have a gated fence around your yard, your walkway up to your front door is considered in the public and access is implied. If you specifically ask someone to leave your property then, yes, they are trespassing if they refuse.

The reason reporters and camera crews set up off property is because they know they will be asked to leave and just avoid that issue.


A key thing ignored here is that these two have a history, so implied consent may not even be applicable here.

ETA: If this "journalist" was ever previously told to leave the cop's property, he is then trespassing any time he returns to the property. Figured I better explain it before all of Sean's friends melt about it
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:30 am to
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I simply cant believe youve never noticed actual reporters gathered on the sidewalk, because they know they cant just go up to the door to ask questions of a homeowner involved in a "breaking news" case
wait you think it’s against the law to walk up and knock on someone’s front door without having to go through a gate?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:35 am to
Maybe so, but that's an entirely different set of circumstances from his blanket statement.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:48 am to
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an altercation between private citizens on private property..



When that situation occurs, let me know.

This thread is about a journalist holding a public servant accountable
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:49 am to
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ETA: If this "journalist" was ever previously told to leave the cop's property, he is then trespassing any time he returns to the property. Figured I better explain it before all of Sean's friends melt about it


You've already established that you are too stubborn to inform yourself of the back story here, but thanks for explaining that to us anyway.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:50 am to
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When that situation occurs, let me know.

This thread is about a journalist holding a public servant accountable


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Can journalists enter private residences under the First Amendment?

No, the First Amendment right to freedom of the press does not grant journalists special permission to enter private property, including residences, without consent. Journalists are subject to the same laws as anyone else, and unauthorized entry onto private property can be considered trespassing, potentially leading to both civil lawsuits and criminal charges.


Stick to being patient zero for covid
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:51 am to
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You've already established that you are too stubborn to inform yourself of the back story here, but thanks for explaining that to us anyway.


Any legal argument against what I said, or just more ignorant melting and screaming fIrSt AmEnDmEnT like it means anything here?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:54 am to
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Stick to being patient zero for covid




When you're losing an argument.. jump.to ad hom. attacks. Only took you 12 pages.. congrats


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Can journalists enter private residences under the First Amendment?


And show me where Sean (just saying his name bc it triggers you so bad) entered a private residence.. again.. facts be damned with you bootlickers.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:55 am to
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When you're losing an argument.. jump.to ad hom. attacks. Only took you 12 pages.. congrats


Eat shite, you haven't answered anything about why you think the first amendment is relevant here.
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entered a private residence.. again.. facts be damned with you bootlickers.


Eeat more shite. You aren't worth another post.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:56 am to
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Any legal argument against what I said, or just more ignorant melting and screaming fIrSt AmEnDmEnT like it means anything here?



Since your too lazy and stubborn to watch the videos i posted that give the complete back story, I'll help you out.

This was his first trip to officers home and there were not any "no trespassing" signs posted.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:56 am to
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And show me where Sean (just saying his name bc it triggers you so bad) entered a private residence.. again.. facts be damned with you bootlickers.


Do you have to enter a private residence to trespass?
Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:57 am to
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This was his first trip to officers home and there were not any "no trespassing" signs posted.


Does a "no trespassing" sign have to be posted?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:59 am to
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why you think the first amendment is relevant here.


Freedom of the press
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:00 am to
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Do you have to enter a private residence to trespass?


Is it legal for door to door salesman or Jehovahs witnesses to knock on my door?

Or can I chase them off my property with a gun, spit in their face and have them arrested for trespassing?
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:06 am to
Spitting in someone’s face is, in fact illegal. I had an employee get spit on by a customer one time and I had the customer arrested for assault.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:07 am to
At what moment in time does a leisurely stroll up to someone's front door become trespassing?

After a warning?

With a sign?

After a gun is pulled?

Muy importante.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:11 am to
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At what moment in time does a leisurely stroll up to someone's front door become trespassing?


From what I've learned, if there is a sign or if you've been asked to leave and remain on the premises..neither apply here. You also have to be given the opportunity to retreat, which Sean immediately started to do before the maniac came back out with a gun
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 11:14 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:11 am to
frick that cop.

You get a felony charge if you spit on a cop but not the other way around.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56540 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:18 am to
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Spitting in someone’s face is, in fact illegal. I had an employee get spit on by a customer one time and I had the customer arrested for assault.


Apparently not illegal for if the spitter is a Connecticut state trooper. But its an automatic felony if the cop is the spitee.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 11:19 am
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