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re: Clingmans Dome in Great Smoky Mountains is now Kuwohi after Cherokee request is approved
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:19 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:19 pm to GetCocky11
So, still clingmans dome
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:23 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Apparently him and a professor from UNC, Elisha Mitchell, got in a pissing contest over the highest peak in the Appalachians. Mitchell was later proven correct
I guess they are coming for Elisha next.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:26 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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What was it called before the Cherokee arrived?
Place where bear $hit.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:27 pm to GetCocky11
Didn't I read somewhere that the observation tower will still carry Clingman's name (Clingman's Dome Observation Tower) but the mountain itself is now renamed Kuwohi.
Auburn has Pat Dye Field at Jordan-Hare Stadium
Bama has Nick Saban Field at Bryant-Denny Stadium.
I guess the NPS can have Clingman's Dome Observation Tower at Kuwohi.
Auburn has Pat Dye Field at Jordan-Hare Stadium
Bama has Nick Saban Field at Bryant-Denny Stadium.
I guess the NPS can have Clingman's Dome Observation Tower at Kuwohi.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:27 pm to Jcorye1
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Damnit this joke doesn't work, Ohio is Iroquois
I think it kind of does.
I believe that the Cherokee were at one time part of the Iroquois, at least their language is closely related.
For some reason a few hundred years ago, the Cherokee split off and moved southeast.
I wonder who they pushed out?
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:34 pm to GetCocky11
Went there last year. Awesome views.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:34 pm to GetCocky11
This Boomer is never going to call it the Cane's River Center.
It will be called the Centroplex until the day I die.

It will be called the Centroplex until the day I die.
quote:
October 7, 1977
The Grand Opening of the Riverside Centroplex was celebrated with two days of festivities that began tonight in 1977. Three thousand formally-clad guests shuffled across the floor and through the concourses of the arena, thinking perhaps, of the rabbit ears and balloon hats they’d need to purchase before the Steve Martin concert a couple of months later. The next day, Bishop Stanley Ott would bless the building, Earl Taylor of Southern University would sing, dignitaries would be recognized, and Senator Russell Long and Governor Edwin Edwards spoke and assisted in the cutting of the ribbons.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:36 pm to eatpie
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How do they know (with any certainty) "Kuwohi" was the Cherokee name? I am sure there are some records when a map was made, but I doubt every hill and peak did not have a specific indian name.
Someone got the last Chiefs wife liquored up and played dog over kitty cat.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:42 pm to GetCocky11
We are literally being hunted.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:43 pm to GetCocky11
It's still the Indians and Redskins for me. My arse ain't changing.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:44 pm to GetCocky11
I'm still going to call it Clingman's Dome.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:46 pm to auggie
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For some reason a few hundred years ago, the Cherokee split off and moved southeast.
I wonder who they pushed out?
It was similar to the St. George exodus...vv controversial. Much wampum discussed.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:47 pm to GetCocky11
It isn't official until it is changed on Google Maps.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:47 pm to TheFonz
The real reason.
"In 1859, the mountain was renamed to "Clingmans Dome" by Arnold Guyot for compatriot Thomas L. Clingman, a Confederate general of the American Civil War."
"In 1859, the mountain was renamed to "Clingmans Dome" by Arnold Guyot for compatriot Thomas L. Clingman, a Confederate general of the American Civil War."
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:48 pm to GetCocky11
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Kuwohi is the highest point in Tennessee and the observation tower offers visitors to the summit 360° views of the Smokies.
I thought Clingmans Dome was in North Carolina?
Edit: looks like it sits on the state line
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:48 pm to GetCocky11
It is a bit ironic that a mountain owned by the U.S. federal government is now getting a Native American name.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:49 pm to GetCocky11
I was just up there a few weeks ago. It could have been……
Oh wait
And I have been up there a handful of times and have only seen it clear one time. It doesn’t matter if it’s a blue sky on the bottom of the mountain, it is always cloudy up there.
Oh wait
And I have been up there a handful of times and have only seen it clear one time. It doesn’t matter if it’s a blue sky on the bottom of the mountain, it is always cloudy up there.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:50 pm to GetCocky11
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Thomas Lanier Clingman (July 27, 1812 – November 3, 1897), known as the "Prince of Politicians," was a Democratic member
i approve of this change
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:54 pm to GetCocky11
I damn near died on the road to Clingman's Dome when I was about 13 years old.
A group of us from school spent 3 days camping at Cades Cove and woke up on the morning of the 3rd day to a pretty serious snowstorm. My dad chaperoned this trip and the 4 kids with us talked him into driving us to Clingman's dome to take in the view in the snow. The road going up was closed and folks were skiing and tubing. An older man with a tube asked us if we wanted to give it a try and I, being in the presence of a young lady I was madly in love with, said "Ill do it".
I was the hero of the group...the other boys cheered me on as I started up the hill and the young lady eyed me like a knight on a white stallion....even threw me a kiss as I started up the road. I went a little way past the first curve, just out of sight of my friends, and hopped on that tube and that old man must have known Clarke Griswald because that damned tube started down that hill at an excessive rate of speed and was accelerating WAY more than one would think was possible.
I managed to navigate that first turn...as it turned out I went from one should to the other like a drift car (my friends told me this later....I was unaware because I was busy trying to stop and had my eyes closed to boot).
Apparently, some sort of wild animal in the vicinity was also being massacred while this was happening because my friends and several people on that mountain mentioned the screams they heard as I went through that curve. Some insinuated it was me making those noises, but I know damned well it was not because I have never been able to hit the high notes and decibel levels they described AND I was, as I say, occupied with not dying and was in no position to make any sort of commentary on what was going on in the moment.
Anyway I managed to survive the curve through shear athletic ability and nerve....and a metric ton of luck...and was headed straight toward my friends at the bottom of the hill.
Apparently they were of the opinion that I intended to come to a halt short of them because they just stood their like statues and watched as I approached.....until they realized I was about to bowl them over like a PBA roller throwing a strike. They scattered like quail but unfortunately the young lady and one other boy, having little experience with snow, did not have the footing to make good their escape and I plowed through them, sending them flying and amazingly not slowing me down in the least.
Looking back I would have thought the young lady would have tried to slow me down but I am not sure she didn't give a good kick as she went flying overhead and increased my velocity down that damned hill of death.
I did not have time in the moment to consider this...I was headed straight for the chrome bumper of my Dad's truck. To this day I can see the sun glinting off that solid 1970s hunk of chromed American steel...so shiny I saw a madman staring at me from eye level which was, to my consternation, my own reflection. This jarring site is partially responsible for my being alive today...I flinched just enough to swing clear of the truck only to realize that I may have been better off piling up against it...because all that was beyond it was a fricking cliff....nothing but the tops of pine trees headed toward me at about the speed of sound and as soon as me and that tube went over that cliff we parted ways......it flew one way, I flew the other and we both fell at least 50 feet through those pine limbs.
This wasn't a big deal for the tube, it being made of rubber, full of air and unencumbered by my weight it softly hit the ground and slid gracefully to a stop against another pine tree. Me, being made of skin and bone, did not softly hit the ground...I pile dived into the ground at the speed of sound (if those people who accused me of screaming like a girl were right because I never heard any screaming, either it never happened or I was leaving it in my wake).
Regardless of what grown adults and what I thought were my friends opinion on any screaming that occurred my fun was not quite over....unlike the tube one pine tree was not enough to halt my momentum, it took several of them bouncing over my entire body to slow me to a stop. There I was, lying on the side of a mountain, beat to near death by the earth and pine trees....amid a deafening silence....not a bird, no human voices, nothing....just me lying motionless against a pine tree staring at the sky....when I realized I was unable to breath....I had had the wind knocked out of me....if you have never had that happen I do not suggest trying it, it is not as enjoyable as it sounds.
I am lying there, trying to breath, no doubt making some small gasping noises, nothing like the death rattles those "friends" of mine told everyone in school about, when a gang of folks rush up and, disappointed that they don't have a story about a dead kid to tell their friends when they get home, they help me up, brush me off and lead me back up that cliff.
We get back to the top and my Dad said "Damn son, that looked like fun. Where's that man's tube?".
I think him or the man saw in my eyes that I couldn't care less about that man's tube and the man says "I see it" and trots off to get it.
My dad asks me and the other kids if anyone else wants to go tubing and surprisingly enough everyone suddenly remembered they had pressing issues back home. We climbed into the bed of the truck, closed the door to the camper shell, and Daddy drove us back to Atlanta. You'd have thought I was in the camper with a bunch of lunatics judging by the descriptions of my tubing on the way home. There were 4 of them telling it and there were at least 7 stories, none of them remotely close to the truth, and none of the sounds they described could have happened or I would have heard some of them. Even that young lady had been stricken with some sort of mental collapse and could not quit giggling about it.
A group of us from school spent 3 days camping at Cades Cove and woke up on the morning of the 3rd day to a pretty serious snowstorm. My dad chaperoned this trip and the 4 kids with us talked him into driving us to Clingman's dome to take in the view in the snow. The road going up was closed and folks were skiing and tubing. An older man with a tube asked us if we wanted to give it a try and I, being in the presence of a young lady I was madly in love with, said "Ill do it".
I was the hero of the group...the other boys cheered me on as I started up the hill and the young lady eyed me like a knight on a white stallion....even threw me a kiss as I started up the road. I went a little way past the first curve, just out of sight of my friends, and hopped on that tube and that old man must have known Clarke Griswald because that damned tube started down that hill at an excessive rate of speed and was accelerating WAY more than one would think was possible.
I managed to navigate that first turn...as it turned out I went from one should to the other like a drift car (my friends told me this later....I was unaware because I was busy trying to stop and had my eyes closed to boot).
Apparently, some sort of wild animal in the vicinity was also being massacred while this was happening because my friends and several people on that mountain mentioned the screams they heard as I went through that curve. Some insinuated it was me making those noises, but I know damned well it was not because I have never been able to hit the high notes and decibel levels they described AND I was, as I say, occupied with not dying and was in no position to make any sort of commentary on what was going on in the moment.
Anyway I managed to survive the curve through shear athletic ability and nerve....and a metric ton of luck...and was headed straight toward my friends at the bottom of the hill.
Apparently they were of the opinion that I intended to come to a halt short of them because they just stood their like statues and watched as I approached.....until they realized I was about to bowl them over like a PBA roller throwing a strike. They scattered like quail but unfortunately the young lady and one other boy, having little experience with snow, did not have the footing to make good their escape and I plowed through them, sending them flying and amazingly not slowing me down in the least.
Looking back I would have thought the young lady would have tried to slow me down but I am not sure she didn't give a good kick as she went flying overhead and increased my velocity down that damned hill of death.
I did not have time in the moment to consider this...I was headed straight for the chrome bumper of my Dad's truck. To this day I can see the sun glinting off that solid 1970s hunk of chromed American steel...so shiny I saw a madman staring at me from eye level which was, to my consternation, my own reflection. This jarring site is partially responsible for my being alive today...I flinched just enough to swing clear of the truck only to realize that I may have been better off piling up against it...because all that was beyond it was a fricking cliff....nothing but the tops of pine trees headed toward me at about the speed of sound and as soon as me and that tube went over that cliff we parted ways......it flew one way, I flew the other and we both fell at least 50 feet through those pine limbs.
This wasn't a big deal for the tube, it being made of rubber, full of air and unencumbered by my weight it softly hit the ground and slid gracefully to a stop against another pine tree. Me, being made of skin and bone, did not softly hit the ground...I pile dived into the ground at the speed of sound (if those people who accused me of screaming like a girl were right because I never heard any screaming, either it never happened or I was leaving it in my wake).
Regardless of what grown adults and what I thought were my friends opinion on any screaming that occurred my fun was not quite over....unlike the tube one pine tree was not enough to halt my momentum, it took several of them bouncing over my entire body to slow me to a stop. There I was, lying on the side of a mountain, beat to near death by the earth and pine trees....amid a deafening silence....not a bird, no human voices, nothing....just me lying motionless against a pine tree staring at the sky....when I realized I was unable to breath....I had had the wind knocked out of me....if you have never had that happen I do not suggest trying it, it is not as enjoyable as it sounds.
I am lying there, trying to breath, no doubt making some small gasping noises, nothing like the death rattles those "friends" of mine told everyone in school about, when a gang of folks rush up and, disappointed that they don't have a story about a dead kid to tell their friends when they get home, they help me up, brush me off and lead me back up that cliff.
We get back to the top and my Dad said "Damn son, that looked like fun. Where's that man's tube?".
I think him or the man saw in my eyes that I couldn't care less about that man's tube and the man says "I see it" and trots off to get it.
My dad asks me and the other kids if anyone else wants to go tubing and surprisingly enough everyone suddenly remembered they had pressing issues back home. We climbed into the bed of the truck, closed the door to the camper shell, and Daddy drove us back to Atlanta. You'd have thought I was in the camper with a bunch of lunatics judging by the descriptions of my tubing on the way home. There were 4 of them telling it and there were at least 7 stories, none of them remotely close to the truth, and none of the sounds they described could have happened or I would have heard some of them. Even that young lady had been stricken with some sort of mental collapse and could not quit giggling about it.
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