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re: Bree Newsome climbs flag pole to remove Confederate Flag from SC Statehouse
Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:59 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:59 pm to TxTiger82
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The point was clearly to remove, however temporarily, a state-sanctioned symbol that a large subset of individuals have a problem with.
There's a lot about the Government I have a problem with but I don't trespass and deface Government property to demonstrate that.
shite like this just creates even more backlash from opposing groups and only further fuels the fire while making a mockery of what they were trying to do. There are avenues to deal with this and that doesn't include the attention whorish way she did it.
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Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:59 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I just laugh at them and their outrage. I realize none of them will ever make anything of themselves other than being criminals
All I can do is shake my head that someone lives their life that utterly and absolutely clueless. And that there are people just like her who share the same viewpoint. Unreal.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:02 pm to WG_Dawg
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And that there are people just like her who share the same viewpoint. Unreal.
There is a growing subset of young, educated, and radical black folk who are very angry and not afraid to express it.
Not being black, myself, it is hard to understand where they are coming from. Sometimes I wish public discourse could take the form of a dialogue rather than a diatribe.
That said, I generally sympathize with historically marginalized groups, and I understand that the black experience in the United States is, perhaps, less equitable than other experiences.
I do NOT believe that blaming individuals is the answer (this is what the "privilege paradigm" does). Obviously, structural change is necessary to address some of the issues black folks are dealing with. And those structures do not change just because individuals "checked their privilege."
This post was edited on 6/27/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:02 pm to GEAUXmedic
After reading the tweets she posted, she sounds like a Black Separatist ? She probably spent time in Rev Wrights house of worship, ......but didn't listen to the sermon.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:05 pm to stout
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a large subset of individuals have a problem with.
didn't seem to have that big of a problem with it last week.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:06 pm to rb
I'm sure she has plenty Malcolm X posters hanging on her walls. She's a criminal plain and simple. Not a hero, not a figurehead for changing "unequal culture". Peaceful and LEGAL protest is perfectly fine. MLK followed ghandi's lead to demonstrate this, and it lead to the civil rights act of 1964. This shite is gonna lead to absolutely nothing
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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didn't seem to have that big of a problem with it last week.
They did. The problem has become salient in the last week or so.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:07 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Like what?
Obviously, structural change is necessary to address some of the issues black folks are dealing with
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:07 pm to TxTiger82
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and I understand that the black experience in the United States is, perhaps, less equitable than other experiences.
They currently get more benefits and opportunities than any white person does so let's not pretend like they are so marginalized. The bad thing is they take advantage of the wrong opportunities like welfare instead of taking advantage of priority on Government contracts or something that could lead them to a better life.
I have lost bids that I was lower on because I wasn't black FYI and it's even worse if you are bidding against a black woman. Gotta meet those numbers and redistribute the wealth away from evil white people. Nevermind letting the free market work.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:08 pm to TxTiger82
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Not being black, myself, it is hard to understand where they are coming from.
I DGAS where they come from, because I can quite easily look at the other side of the coin. There are TONS of black people who study, go to college (or if that is not possible, enter the workforce), make something of themself, treat others with respect, obey the law, have good character, dress appropriately, and just be solid contributors to society in general. Has absolutely nothing to do with their skin tone and everything to do with their sense of responsibility and effort.
These people who are always pointing fingers about whose fault it is they're oppressed and whey their held down...I don't give the slightest shite what they think or what wrongs happen to them in their life. By and large they deserve it.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
yeah real hero 
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:08 pm to public_enemy
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Peaceful and LEGAL protest is perfectly fine. MLK followed ghandi's lead to demonstrate this, and it lead to the civil rights act of 1964. This shite is gonna lead to absolutely nothing
Both MLK and Ghandi were criminals, by your definition. Both spent some time in jail for civil disobedience.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:09 pm to WG_Dawg
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By and large they deserve it.
Oooo, gonna disagree with you there.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:09 pm to Tuscaloosa
guess he will get a statue next?
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:09 pm to TxTiger82
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That said, I generally sympathize with historically marginalized groups, and I understand that the black experience in the United States is, perhaps, less equitable than other experiences.
But who's fault is that? There are a ton of black people who are well off and have made a good life for themselves. Living in America doesn't mean everything is handed to you. You have to work for a good life and roll with the punches. Yes, there are people who are born into wealthy families, but its not cause of the color of their skin, they are a victim of circumstance. These people are fighting for the world to be handed to them on a silver platter. Instead of trying to change things in the world that aren't really there, they should try to work to make a success of their lives. But I suppose it's easier to take the lazy way out and create an issue to protest to give your life a false meaning.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:10 pm to TxTiger82
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The problem has become salient in the last week or so.
To be fair, a lot of them are only upset because the media is telling them to be upset. A flag shouldn't dictate their quality and enjoyment of life.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:10 pm to WG_Dawg
She'd make Boston University a damn fine "Black Studies " professor.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:10 pm to stout
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They currently get more benefits and opportunities than any white person does so let's not pretend like they are so marginalized.
I agree that there are major problems with the ways our society has attempted to make things more equitable. But I'm not sure any of that has undone the socio-economic marginalization the typical black person still experiences in this country.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:11 pm to blueboy
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Obviously, structural change is necessary to address some of the issues black folks are dealing with
Like what?
Public education is the first thing that comes to mind.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:11 pm to TxTiger82
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There is a growing subset of young, educated, and radical black folk who are very angry and not afraid to express it.
Well that won't help race relations...rather than moving on and accepting history as the past they would rather dwell on it...they may be educated but that doesn't make them intelligent.
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