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Big changes coming to tech employment - FedGov has finally overhauled H1-B visa

Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:25 pm
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Employers will be required to pay the high-skilled foreign workers significantly higher wages


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WASHINGTON—The Trump administration announced an overhaul of the H-1B visa program for high-skilled foreign workers that will require employers to pay H-1B workers significantly higher wages, narrow the types of degrees that could qualify an applicant and shorten the length of visas for certain contract workers.

The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.

Ken Cuccinelli, the No. 2 official at DHS, said on a news conference call Tuesday that he expects about one-third of H-1B visa applications would be rejected under the new set of rules.

Mr. Cuccinelli and Patrick Pizzella, the deputy secretary of labor, said the changes were necessary to protect American workers, whom the administration believes are being undercut by foreign workers on H-1B visas who are paid lower wages to perform similar jobs.

“America’s immigration laws should put American workers first,” Mr. Pizzella said, pointing to what he described as insufficiently stringent wage requirements on foreign workers in the H-1B visa program. “The result is U.S. workers are being ousted from good-paying, middle-class jobs and being replaced by foreign workers,” he said.

The policy changes have been expected since 2017, when the administration first announced intentions to revamp the H-1B visa program. Even before these formal changes were announced, however, the Trump administration has tightened issuance of H-1B visas, rejecting 15.1% of applications in 2019 compared with 6.1% in 2016, according to figures from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

The Labor Department’s wage-scale revision would significantly increase the required wages employers must pay their workers on H-1B visas. The requirements, which are set to take effect Thursday, are based on surveys of the range of salaries paid in particular professions.


Practically speaking, the L1 workers will now be required to receive a wage consistent with a current L3 skill level. It's a massive jump that will help prevent abuse of the system and encourage more hiring of graduates from American colleges for those most sought-after entry level tech jobs.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:28 pm to
ghanesh and abdul BTFO

Brayden and billy bob comin to a tech office near you!!!
Posted by OldSouth
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:28 pm to
Does this mean tech support will now speak at least broken English?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:39 pm to
This is great news for me thank you DONALD J TRUMP!
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:41 pm to
Nothing by love and respect for my President!

America first!
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:43 pm to
Another promise kept.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:45 pm to
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Practically speaking, the L1 workers will now be required to receive a wage consistent with a current L3 skill level. It's a massive jump that will help prevent abuse of the system and encourage more hiring of graduates from American colleges for those most sought-after entry level tech jobs.



H1-B visa has always been abused, see Disney IT-staffing makeover.
Posted by theone
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:46 pm to
This is a good thing.

Asssume the Dems are fighting it. If so, what’s the reason?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:47 pm to
Am waiting to see how the Left spins this as racist and Nazi like.
Posted by agregime1
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:50 pm to
Perfect timing with remote work exploding.... except remote work is from anywhere and you could hire a dude from anywhere to do the same exact thing. We'll see if theres a bill on banning hires. Think remote work isnt an issue? Pinterest cancelled their $90m lease. As usual this will prove you guys are just a step behind.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:53 pm to
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ghanesh and abdul BTFO Brayden and billy bob comin to a tech office near you!!!
at least there will be far fewer communication breakdowns
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:57 pm to
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except remote work is from anywhere and you could hire a dude from anywhere to do the same exact thing.


And now you have to pay him real wages, which means it may be worth looking to areas with lower costs of living for your entry level hires.


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As usual this will prove you guys are just a step behind.


Who is "you guys" and why are they behind?

H1-B has been needing reform like this for 20 years. Big Tech has fought it every step of the way.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 5:59 pm to
Something tells me tech will find a country with lax laws and satellite foreign workers there. For less wages, likely.

Money always finds a way. Always.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 6:02 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:03 pm to
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Something tells me tech will find a country with lax laws and satellite foreign workers there. For less wages, likely.



There has never really been anything stopping that anyways.

This couldn't have been ignored any longer. We can't encourage young people to go into STEM fields while also allowing abuse of an immigration program that will drive their own wages down.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:03 pm to
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Does this mean tech support will now speak at least broken English?


Nope tech support will still be offshore contingent workers housed in India or Mexico.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Something tells me tech will find a country with lax laws and satellite foreign workers there. For less wages, likely


They do this today....I'd bet that American companies employ more offshore contingent workers than H1-B visa holders in America.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:05 pm to
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They do this today....I'd bet that American companies employ more offshore contingent workers than H1-B visa holders in America.



The more process-focused jobs that don't require much strategic thought already are outsourced. Tech support, entry level analysts roles, data entry, etc.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:06 pm to
But it may increase and without stateside back fills.

Talking about the R&D, engineers, the real brains.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 6:08 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:13 pm to
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Talking about the R&D, engineers, the real brains.



I'm in a business that deals with this every day.

Those specialized roles are much harder to fill via outsourcing. American companies will likely retain those top tier employees and meet their new wage requirements - now in line with what Americans are paid.

The H1-B was never intended to bring in entry level hires and train them up for very low wages in an environment that makes it scary/risky for them to ask for a raise. It was intended to bring the very best talent to this country. It's been abused for a long time. This reform was definitely needed and I honestly don't understand why some Democrats have fought it so hard.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:13 pm to
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Something tells me tech will find a country with lax laws and satellite foreign workers there. For less wages, likely.


Well, they won't be in this Country having anchor babies and applying for entitlements.
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