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Army/Air National Guard members... Question

Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:57 pm
How easy is it to direct commission into a weekend warrior position without prior service?

I'm quite familiar with the enlistment and palace chase/front processes, just very unfamiliar with direct commission without previous experience.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 10:04 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:00 pm to
Not a member, but I do know you’ll probably need to be ordained clergy, a healthcare professional, a lawyer, or have a graduate degree in science or engineering.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:01 pm to
You can enlist in the air guard and they’ll pay for your (in state,) college, and you might be sent to pilot training when you graduate
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

you might be sent to pilot training when you graduate



You don’t need to go through OTS (and therefore not “direct commission”) to be an Air Force pilot?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:06 pm to
Not if you go the guard route
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

You don’t need to go through OTS (and therefore not “direct commission”) to be an Air Force pilot?


CW Lemoine who does YouTube videos about being a fighter pilot I think indicated one can join the Air Guard in Louisiana and with a college degree get into pilot training. But in watching his videos I'm not sure if there is still the air guard wing in Louisiana now. But he said it is an option for those who want to become a pilot.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15746 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:12 pm to
What about ROTC directly into a weekend warrior spot?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

What about ROTC directly into a weekend warrior spot?

You can sign a reserve component contract in Army ROTC. Not sure about the Air Force.
Posted by AFBuckeye
Ohio
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:18 pm to
What profession are you in?
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15746 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:23 pm to
I'm a Senior, active duty AF... trying to educate myself for my daughter (no pics!). She's graduating HS soon and is interested in the guard/reserves. I'm not for it, but if she's fully intent on it, then I'd rather her finish college first and then commission.

Need to go talk to a guard/reserve recruiter, but we all know how recruiters are.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:23 pm to
What kind of degree do you have?
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15746 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:28 pm to
I'll definitely check into that
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:03 am to
Her best bet is to do ROTC then go guard/reserves. She can not do ROTC and commission after but I know army side she will have to do state OCS (blows) or do boot camp/accelerated OCS.

Can also enlist and a lot of states offer free in state tuition. Do not recommend due to optempo being so high. Will take her more than 4 years to complete school
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:35 am to
This may not be germane and it was 3 decades ago but my junior and senior year of ROTC I was in a reserve unit as a cadet. I basically shadowed a platoon leader for 2 years. At the time you could only do the program after signing an obligation so for me that was the last two years, for those on a ROTC scholarship it might have allowed them to do it as a freshman, not sure. IIRC my pay was in line with an E5 as a cadet.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8491 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:45 am to
I was active duty ,but to have a direct commission without a previous enlistment or going through OCS, WOCS, or ROTC is rare. My guess is you would have to have experience doing a rare skill that is needed. Medical Doctor, Lawyer, Scientist, or Chaplin. I have heard of Chaplins and Medical Doctors getting Direct Commissions to Field Grade Officers. If you have no experience in these fields than I highly doubt that there is a path for direct commission. Than again I have been out for 13 years and getting promoted to SGT is just about automatic now from my understanding so alot may have changed.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:48 am
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:53 am to
Doctors and nurses do it all the time.
Posted by LAhinguarst
The Box
Member since Oct 2020
393 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 6:02 am to
If you have a specialty degree you can direct commission and go through a bullshite "basic training" to learn the army basics.


If not, and you have at least 90 credit hours you can enlist as an O9S and go to OCS after basic training.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15746 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:37 am to
I suppose I am using the wrong terminology. I understand that she'd have to have a degree and I wasn't meaning skip OCS, what I mean is get picked up into an officer billet in the guard/reserves directly out of college without having to go AD or enlist in that unit first.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4541 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:49 am to
I'm retired ANG (32 years). In my old unit, unless a person has an in demand degree (engineer, medical, etc.) or some other connection (child of a senior officer, etc.) getting a direct commission would be difficult. The "run of the mill" officers (maintenance, logistics, etc.) mostly come from current enlisted who completed college while enlisted.

Not sure about the Army Guard, but I advised my kids to stay away.

My oldest two are enlisted in the ANG getting their college paid for, one had a ROTC scholarship, but got out of it and enlisted.
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