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re: Are their genetic differences between races? Or is it environment?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:34 pm to
No everybody has the same exact DNA. A smart person is exactly the same as a dumb person.

Did I get that right?
Posted by MikeBRLA
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:35 pm to
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American


That's not a race, it's a nationality.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:43 pm to
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No everybody has the same exact DNA.


Human beings share between 99 and 99.9 percent of DNA.

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A smart person is exactly the same as a dumb person.


No, Dr. Ben Carson is obviously way, way different than Joe Biden.
Posted by G Vice
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:44 pm to
Doing well. Cancel my reservation. I hope it's a good series, with maybe each team winning a game (you know, like a moral victory for App) going into game 3.

Can't say anything about the Jews, other than I am shocked to learn how many people are actually Jewish. That's a product of my upbringing in this intensely Catholic subculture here.

Posted by Dirty Don
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:45 pm to
Yes. Blacks have higher concentrations of fast twitch muscle fibers than whites. Fast twitch muscle fibers are advantageous in sports requiring explosive movements. An abundance of fast twitch muscle fibers are also more adept at hyper trophy as well. Look at your top bodybuilding champions, the majority are black. Blacks also have denser bones than other races. Whites tend to have higher concentrations of slow twitch muscle fibers. races of people from primarily warmer climates also tend to not store body fat as those from colder climates do. It probably has to do with the body's adaptation to surviving harsh cold winters.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:47 pm to
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It probably has to do with the body's adaptation to surviving harsh cold winters.


So Jamarcus Russell is Norwegian?

Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:48 pm to
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Cancel my reservation.


AWESOME!! I will take you off the list promptly.

Good for you that all is going well.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
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My children will not call themselves "black". Black in reference to "race" is only used to denote classes in america. Their skin color is not black, their ancestors don't come from a country called black, so their is no reason for them to describe themselves as black.



Honest question, do you call white people "white?"

Their skin is not exactly white, their ancestors don't come from a country called white, etc.

I don't believe African American is exactly accurate either.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Yes. Blacks have higher concentrations of fast twitch muscle fibers than whites. Fast twitch muscle fibers are advantageous in sports requiring explosive movements. An abundance of fast twitch muscle fibers are also more adept at hyper trophy as well. Look at your top bodybuilding champions, the majority are black. Blacks also have denser bones than other races. Whites tend to have higher concentrations of slow twitch muscle fibers. races of people from primarily warmer climates also tend to not store body fat as those from colder climates do. It probably has to do with the body's adaptation to surviving harsh cold winters.



As you said blacks evolved while living in warmer climates with abundant food sources so they didn't need to adapt to survive, they just needed to hunt. Whites evolved while living in harsh, cold climates and were forced to adapt and innovate in order to survive. They needed to farm, store goods, build larger communities, work together. Over thousands of years of evolution this created a large difference in intelligence and how races interact.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm white and if I witnessed this in person I would lose my shite.

You are a better man than I.




Absolutely. Pure trash and scum that guy is.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:01 pm to
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I would not say genetics. I would say more along the lines of evolution and breeding based on your environmental settings.



Probably true. But is it not also equally true that one group of people had a greater need for mental acuity than another? Thus, wouldn't this lead to a difference in IQ between these groups?
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Over thousands of years of evolution this created a large difference in intelligence and how races interact.



I think it can explain body types, but intelligence?

How does it affect the racial interaction?
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Why can't you just refer to your self as American?



What about when there is a need to describe someone? Ignoring skin color is a HUGE descriptor.

Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:05 pm to
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I think it can explain body types, but intelligence?



Hierarchy of needs. When you're so focused on physical demands to survive you don't develop the mental acuity necessary.

I don't necessarily believe that, but it's one explanation I've seen thrown out.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:08 pm to
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this created a large difference in intelligence
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:08 pm to
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Hierarchy of needs. When you're so focused on physical demands to survive you don't develop the mental acuity necessary.



Exactly. Its well documented that sub-Saharan blacks are by far the least intelligent people on Earth and the main reason is all they have had to traditionally do is hunt.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:11 pm to
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Exactly. Its well documented that sub-Saharan blacks are by far the least intelligent people on Earth and the main reason is all they have had to traditionally do is hunt.



I agree that as a whole the sub-saharan people are less intelligent due to environmental reasons over time similar to physical differences. However, the language here is far too harsh. "by far the least intelligent" Meh, I don't know about that.

"well documented" I'm not so sure about that either.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:16 pm to
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I agree that as a whole the sub-saharan people are less intelligent due to environmental reasons over time similar to physical differences. However, the language here is far too harsh. "by far the least intelligent" Meh, I don't know about that.

"well documented" I'm not so sure about that either.


I am going off of published IQ studies and yes they are by far the lowest. Their IQ is around 70, about 15 points lower than American blacks.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:32 pm to
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Their IQ is around 70,


You have a link? - Because that is disabling mental infirmity. Lynn and Vanhanen take that position from 3 very old samples, but I would balk at taking those at face value.

And I would question the methodology and examine the content of the test. I'm not saying it is biased, but IQ should be testing capacity to think, rather than content of thought acquired.

I simply don't believe 3/4 of a billion to a billion black folks "average" 70 IQ points.

Lynn and Vanhanen ignore things like the Flynn Effect and more recent studies that suggest 80 to 82 or thereabouts (still bad, but it ain't 70).

Science Direct

The difficulties arise in trying to use Western intelligence testing methodologies to evaluate the intelligence of an entirely different cultural population.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 1:33 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:46 pm to
Some things are genetic. My son acts like I did as a kid without ever having seen me act that way. His mental makeup seems to be completely genetic imo.

Also, I can see physical traits from both sides of the family in him. Genetics play a huge role imo.
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