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re: An interesting case of self-defense is going to get heated in Lake Charles

Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7894 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:44 pm to
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I dodged a bullet, literally, at LSU one night in a similar scenario

What year was this?
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
869 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Buddy of mine woke up on the kitchen floor of some Asian couples home after blacking out. He said they were poking him with a broom to wake him up and they were super nice and understanding. Cooked him breakfast and drove him home


a buddy and I passed out in the wrong hotel room in Destin during spring break in the late '90's. The door was open, no one was inside and we thought it was our room number I guess. when I woke up, him and I were both being drug by our feet and were dropped onto the highway actually fairly nice treatment from the hotel room occupants as it could've been much worse
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33740 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:46 pm to
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The homeowner doesn’t know that (technically, we don’t even know that right now). The law is based on the reasonable perception of the homeowner at the time of the action. Someone trying to gain entry into your home at 1:00 in the morning is going to always be reasonably perceived as threatening.
someone trying to gain entry to my home at any time without me knowing them, is perceived as threatening - regardless of time.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:53 pm to
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I'm going to invent something to allow us to overcome darkness. Not sure what I'll call it yet.

I'm sure you'll have one of those cartoon "lightbulb moment" events and be back to tell us.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Homeowner should not have gone outside, call police then wait inside.


For some, it isn't practical to call the police every time you hear something outside.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108304 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:56 pm to
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1. Homeowner should not have gone outside, call police then wait inside. 1A if he attempts to gain entry - shoot.
I have a 3,000 sq foot house and three children and each of their rooms has a window

If he gains entry through one of their windows and means harm, one of my children is dead before I can take action thanks to your brilliant plan

I absolutely am meeting him in the yard if I can

This is a house bit an apt. There are multiple entry points. Waiting inside while he has the opportunity to come in from anywhere is dumb
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:58 pm to
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member of a fraternity.


Can't wait to hear how this was fraternity related.
How do you get disoriented, leave a swimming pool, and end up somewhere else?

Alex, I'll take toxicology report for 1000
Posted by NOLAtoABQ
Member since Jun 2022
329 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:59 pm to
I said this in my head before reading at the bottom of the post the the kid is black... but "FRICK that kid." Behavior has consequences.
Posted by NOLAtoABQ
Member since Jun 2022
329 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:01 pm to
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If one is drunk and rapes a woman, he pays the price.

If one is drunk, drives home, wrecks killing a family of 4, He pays the price.

Same applies here


But but... the "kid" aka adult, is black. So, not his fault, dindu, whitey is a rayciss murderer. Case closed.

And they say white people are the privileged ones.
Posted by NOLAtoABQ
Member since Jun 2022
329 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:04 pm to
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DON'T LEAVE THE frickING HOUSE. WAIT FOR THE frickER TO BREAK IN BEFORE YOU SHOOT HIM.


F that. If my family, my wife and kids are in that house... even if they're not... and I give the guy plenty of warning to get the hell off my property, fire a warning shot and he still advances, I'm shooting the F out of him. Period. I'm not waiting for him to break into my house, white, black, brown, yellow or purple. The same applies.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:09 pm to
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If one is drunk and rapes a woman, he pays the price. If one is drunk, drives home, wrecks killing a family of 4, He pays the price. Same applies here


I’d still say you have a hell of a lot of options that don’t include shooting him.

Drunk kid in trunks? Give him a shout from the door or window. He keeps stumbling about and you call the cops and keep an eye on him.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:11 pm to
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I’d still say you have a hell of a lot of options that don’t include shooting him.

Drunk kid in trunks? Give him a shout from the door or window. He keeps stumbling about and you call the cops and keep an eye on him.




That's assuming you know the kid is drunk. I never, ever want to be in that situation but late at night person acting erratically could also be explained by crazy, high, ect.

Also depends on whom is home. If it's just me I'm far, far more willing to take chances to not kill someone. If my gf/wife/kids are with me, people get far less warning if I truly feel threatened.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:12 pm to
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I’d still say you have a hell of a lot of options that don’t include shooting him.


Homeowner should have tried a couple...

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“It’s obvious, you can’t hear what’s going on, but he’s telling him to get out.”

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When Tezeno approached the homeowner, the homeowner fired a shot into the ground, “like a warning shot,”


Oh...he did.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:12 pm to
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If he gains entry through one of their windows and means harm, one of my children is dead before I can take action thanks to your brilliant plan I absolutely am meeting him in the yard if I can This is a house bit an apt. There are multiple entry points. Waiting inside while he has the opportunity to come in from anywhere is dumb


Counter: he’s a drunk dude in swim trunks. Keep an eye on him.

I doubt your kids would be super excited about a dead guy and dad on trial either. It’s not exactly threading a needle to find a middle point in this
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108304 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Counter: he’s a drunk dude in swim trunks. Keep an eye on him.
Ok. And while keeping an eye on him he starts walking to you standing in your doorway. You tell him to stop. He keeps coming at you. You actually fire a warning shot. The son of a bitch keeps coming at you. Now what? Challenge him to a dance competition?
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:15 pm to
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That's assuming you know the kid is drunk. I never, ever want to be in that situation but late at night person acting erratically could also be explained by crazy, high, ect. Also depends on whom is home. If it's just me I'm far, far more willing to take chances to not kill someone. If my gf/wife/kids are with me, people get far less warning if I truly feel threatened.


Could be a zombie hopped up on bath salts trying to eat the brains of children…

But as mentioned, your girlfriend, wife or kids are all probably much better off 999 out of 1,000 times with you not shooting unless you think he has actively begun to breach the house.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Ok. And while keeping an eye on him he starts walking to you standing in your doorway. You tell him to stop. He keeps coming at you. Now what? Challenge him to a dance competition?


Step inside, close the door, and continue to monitor while waiting for police?


Counter: you get it wrong, you go to prison and leave a single mom taking care of multiple kids while you are in a cell. Maybe your 8 year old gets to see a dead guy. Not super awesome for a family either?
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:17 pm to
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For some, it isn't practical to call the police every time you hear something outside.



Also gets you nowhere

If you call 911 and say you heard something outside they wont show up here at all.

You need to have something good to say
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108304 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Step inside, close the door, and continue to monitor while waiting for police?
Unless you live in an apt, you can’t exactly keep an eye on a guy around your entire house. It’s quite impossible from inside. There are multiple entry points and impossible to guard them all.

Going outside and telling him to leave is very reasonable. Killing the persons when they come at you after that is perfectly reasonable to let them meet their maker
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:18 pm to
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you call 911 and say you heard something outside they wont show up here at all.


“There is a man at my door” is a solid bit different than “I heard a spooky sound outside”
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