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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Yeah ok. This will be drought up in trial and will be a point of contention. Ask someone on trial for rape if clothing isnt brought up.




Huh?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24445 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:02 pm to
I doubt it
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3237 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

saw a white couple looking thru windows of a house under construction

Nah, they're ok, just having a look around
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90389 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:11 pm to
Same, hopefully the two rednecks get what they deserve.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26424 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:13 pm to
I can’t believe I haven’t heard about this until a few days ago. I’m glad there was a video of it and it was released.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21662 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:49 pm to
Pirate king’s hot takes in this thread. Yikes.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:48 am to
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I work in north BR dude. I've never seen this unless they're running from something or to something with a purpose. They dont go for jogs like that. Frankly I very rarely see anyone running for exercise, typically its older people walking.


Wtf?? Is this a real response........ dude?

I live in Algiers Point and there’s a guy a few houses down that jogs almost everyday in Nike basketball shorts and basketball shoes.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:51 am to
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Wtf?? Is this a real response........ dude?

I live in Algiers Point and there’s a guy a few houses down that jogs almost everyday in Nike basketball shorts and basketball shoes.


Not to mention it's already been corroborated that he regularly ran through that neighborhood.

I mean, garb being a point of contention is so silly it's mind-boggling. In my San Antonio neighborhood there's at least 3 dudes I regularly see running in clothes just like that. One black, two white. And I'm sure there are more.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:55 am to
I’m so fricking sick of the word ‘alleged.’
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62381 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:18 am to
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I’m so fricking sick of the word ‘alleged.’



Because we know it's a video, right?
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
2033 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:38 am to
What’s the story with the video?

Who filmed it?

Did he know what was going to go down? Possible Accessory? Why just now released?

Didn’t this happen in Feb, but the arrests just recently happened? I’d assume due to video. Was it not it shown to cops at time of incident?

I haven’t heard a word about this whole incident until yesterday. Just terrible.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:34 am to
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What’s the story with the video?

Who filmed it?


A third man was involved in the chase. He filmed it.

quote:

Did he know what was going to go down? Possible Accessory?


No evidence that he knew a shooting would occur.

quote:

Why just now released?


That’s an interesting story. It was leaked by a defense attorney aligned with the shooters. We don’t know if he got it from them or from the DA.

I think, and this is just me, that these Baws thought the video would help them, and they are shocked that we aren’t all rushing to their defense.

quote:

Didn’t this happen in Feb, but the arrests just recently happened? I’d assume due to video. Was it not it shown to cops at time of incident?


The DA had the video from the jump. The shooter was a former investigator for the DA. So the DA recused himself but wrote a letter saying they shouldn’t be charged. (When you have a conflict of interest, that is pretty poor form.)

They finally found another prosecutor, but he wanted to send it to a grand jury.

The video leaked, the shitstorm ensued, and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation stepped in.

That’s all I got.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15962 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:52 am to
Kinda wish I hadn’t watched that.

Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
31861 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:08 am to
If this is what it appears, they need to have the book thrown at them. The inordinate amount of attention all the national outlets are giving it doesn’t seem especially balanced considering the numbers of whites gunned down by blacks in New Orleans alone on a regular basis. Or for that matter, the much more common blacks killing blacks, which gets zero coverage unless it involves a celebrity.

Hypocrisy at its finest.
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
2033 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:10 am to
Thanks
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3237 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:51 am to
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The inordinate amount of attention all the national outlets are giving it doesn’t seem especially balanced considering the numbers of whites gunned down by blacks in New Orleans alone on a regular basis. Or for that matter, the much more common blacks killing blacks, which gets zero coverage unless it involves a celebrity.

This ain't the case to use for this argument. These dudes weren't charged with anything until the video was released and outrage ensued. And it appears the local DA and PD attempted to cover it up

Not to mention, it seems the race of the victim was a big reason he was hunted down by the 2 ol baws
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90389 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:53 am to
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Pirate king’s hot takes in this thread. Yikes.
he's one of them.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14122 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:56 am to
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numbers of whites gunned down by blacks in New Orleans alone on a regular basis.


Wtf are you talking about? Do you live in NOLA? Majority of homicides in NOLA are black on black.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62042 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:36 am to
Haven’t been able to keep up with this monstrous thread, so I apologize my post’s points have already been discussed. I responded to a guy in another thread asking about citizen’s arrest laws, and I’ll be goddamned if I did all that just to be buried in an anchored thread.

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Someone give me a scenario of how a citizens arrest should go down. Do the citizens arrest laws allow the citizen to arrest at gunpoint? If so, then they go free, period.


I found the Georgia statute on a couple of sites. Here is one

It says:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

Their actions don’t meet that standard in a couple of ways. Whatever the victim was doing, it wasn’t “in the presence” of the perps. Nor did they have “immediate knowledge” of the victim’s hypothetical crime. They may have suspected, but they didn’t—they couldn’t know. Also, he was neither “escaping” or “attempting to escape.” Even if he stuffed his pants with gold bricks at the house under construction, he had already escaped—he was running down the road. They would have had to try to detain him at that house. After he left there, he had escaped—past tense—and therefore could no longer be “escaping” or “attempting to escape.” You can’t create an artificial trap for which he has to escape from again. (Just to clarify, I am not in anyway saying the victim actually committed a crime. I am using worst case scenario to make the point that it doesn’t even matter if he had).

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The intent to kill the guy wasn’t there, in my opinion,


Looking at the Georgia statute that the other guy posted a couple of pages ago, I think intent/malice can easily be argued. However, it’s not even necessary:

“(c) A person commits the offense of murder when, in the commission of a felony, he or she causes the death of another human being irrespective of malice.”

Since the citizen’s arrest was not legal, the perps were “in the commission of a felony” themselves. Either aggravated assault or certainly false imprisonment:

quote:
(a) A person commits the offense of false imprisonment when, in violation of the personal liberty of another, he arrests, confines, or detains such person without legal authority.


So since they were “in the commission of a felony” and “caused the death of another human being,” intent doesn’t have to be proven—it is “irrespective of malice.”
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:39 am to
There really isn't any scenario I can think of that would get these baws out of murder. However, apparently the DA has a history of covering for cops so race may not have been a factor in not charging them. Here is a pic of the DA giving the dad baw an award.

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