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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:09 am to
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While I agree, I can't come to any scenario where a reasonable person could find this justifiable.

If

IF


IFFFFFF

If this guy in fact was robbing the neighborhood consistently, I, in my personal feelings, would find it justifiable.

But I completely understand the law doesnt, and understandably so


However, I think this case is likely some trashy people being trashy
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85366 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:10 am to
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But, I lived in a neighborhood(lakeview) that had been robbed multiple times and we had the same suspect on cameras for weeks and nolas finest did nothing. If that was happening here, i understand the extreme frustration. People dont like getting robbed over and over again, it kinda sucks you know


Oh I get it

We had a similar situation in my neighborhood and then some idiot rednecks (who didn't even live in my neighborhood) decided to post pictures of them driving around with guns "hunting for coons" on my neighborhood FB page

...that was fun

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:11 am to
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Oh I get it

We had a similar situation in my neighborhood and then some idiot rednecks (who didn't even live in my neighborhood) decided to post pictures of them driving around with guns "hunting for coons" on my neighborhood FB page

...that was fun
Bossier stand up ya heard!!!!
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:14 am to
quote:

If this guy in fact was robbing the neighborhood consistently, I, in my personal feelings, would find it justifiable.

But I completely understand the law doesnt, and understandably so


Yes, I am talking strictly about legal justification

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:27 am to
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Dude was stupid to run up on a man with a gun and attack him. Really stupid.



You're also the guy that won't go to Costco, despite needing things from Costco, because they're asking patrons to wear masks.

So I'm guessing you're a poliboard type guy.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13304 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:34 am to
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even if he wasn't just jogging, the only defense the "rednecks" ever gave was that they saw him walking around a construction site

so even if their story is 100% legit, they still were not justified in anyway for their actions


Exactly even assuming the absolute worse, this guy had burglarized the neighborhood and was casing around for his next target, this still doesn't justify the 2 pieces of shite acting how they did. Last I checked, death penalty by vigilante justice isn't the penalty for burglary.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:50 am to
You're a fricking moron.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:53 am to
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Dude was stupid to run up on a man with a gun and attack him. Really stupid.


Maybe someone should pull up on you with guns looking to kill you?

Maybe then you would kind of understand the guy was minding his business and saw two evil racist pieces of shite looking to kill him and he was just trying to get out of there alive.

It truly amazes me how much cowardice you guys have. These guys show up with guns and you're attempting to explain why they should be scared and shoot to kill all the while the unarmed jogger is the actual threat in your minds?

fricking cowards
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:55 am to
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They are using the citizen's arrest law to justify the shooting.




what bullshite.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17122 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:57 am to
Another article on situation

If this article is accurate, There was no string of burglaries. Once, on New Years this year, someone stole a handgun out of the truck that belonged to Travis McMichael, the son shooter.

Obviously still messed up, and I understand being upset someone stole out of your car, but that is a bit different than saying a string of burglaries throughout the neighborhood.
And then there's these 911 transcripts.
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“There’s a guy in the house right now; it’s under construction,” the man told the dispatcher.

The man then gave her an address.

“And you said someone’s breaking into it right now?” the dispatcher asked.

“No,” the man replied, “it’s all open. It’s under construction … “

The man interrupted to say Arbery was leaving. “And there he goes right now.”

“Ok,” the dispatcher said, “What is he doing?”

“He’s running down the street,” the man said. The next sentence is garbled.

“That’s fine,” the dispatcher said. “I’ll get (police) out there. I just need to know what he was doing wrong. Was he just on the premises and not supposed to be?”

The next sentence is garbled. “And he’s been caught on camera a bunch at night. It’s kind of an ongoing thing. The man building the house has got heart issues. I think he’s not going to finish it.”

“Ok, that’s fine,” the dispatcher said. “And you said he was a male in a black T-shirt?”

“White T-shirt,” the man said. “Black guy, white T-shirt. He’s done run into the neighborhood again.”

The next 911 call from Satilla Shores came in at 1:14 p.m.

“I’m out here at Satilla Shores,” the man said. “There’s a black male running down the street.”

“Where at Satilla Shores?” the dispatcher asked.

“I don’t know what street we’re on,” the man replied.

“Stop!” he can be heard shouting. “Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!”

So the guy jogging was a bit nosey and was trespassing into private property with the construction zone. I have no problem with calling the police for this. But if all he did was walk around being nosey without taking anything, would that even be a felony? I know it's not ok, but I did similar stuff as a teenager. I would take a closer look at houses under construction just because I was intrigued with how they looked like inside and the transformation process that took place. If there was no door or it would wide open I even walked in like once. But that story is totally besides the point.

So far it looks like all the guy is guilty of is trespassing private property. I don't know wtf is the issue with the 2nd 911 call. Did they call police because they saw a black guy jogging on the street. What kinda shite is that. But, judging by the transcript, it does make me wonder if they are the ones who recorded the video of what happened.
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't know wtf is the issue with the 2nd 911 call. Did they call police because they saw a black guy jogging on the street. What kinda shite is that.


you know why
people here will justify it somehow but you know why
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:07 pm to
Where did this guy Arbery live? Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood, what kind of neighborhood was this? Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Where did this guy Arbery live?
irrelevant
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Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood
irrelevant
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what kind of neighborhood was this?
irrelevant
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Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income?
irrelevant

Any other dumbass questions?
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:11 pm to
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Where did this guy Arbery live? Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood, what kind of neighborhood was this? Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income?


listen bud, we know you don't want black people in your neighborhood for your own reasons, but that's a you problem.
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Where did this guy Arbery live? Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood, what kind of neighborhood was this? Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income?



Why tf would any of that matter?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68546 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Where did this guy Arbery live? Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood, what kind of neighborhood was this? Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income?


None of which means you can kill him, you Klansman.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:14 pm to
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So far it looks like all the guy is guilty of is trespassing private property. I don't know wtf is the issue with the 2nd 911 call. Did they call police because they saw a black guy jogging on the street.


Even if you take that first call as absolutely true, I'm not sure Arbery would have committed a crime. When the caller says it's open...for trespassing, you'd usually (not familiar with GA law) have to enter an area that's closed off somehow. Otherwise, you're basically just walking on a front lawn.

The second call, yeah, calling 911 to report a black man jogging in your neighborhood leads to a fairly obvious conclusion about the motivation of the caller.

Beyond just the video, the fact the older McMichael obviously didn't tell the truth about the incident to the police says so much.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:21 pm to
Bunch of pussies on here. None of what I asked means shite to me you flying off the handle self righteous bitches, might mean something to the frickers that killed the man.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:23 pm to
Read my reply to George the dumb arse
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:25 pm to
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None of what I asked means shite to me you flying off the handle self righteous bitches, might mean something to the frickers that killed the man.

It's you attempting to justify the killing with some ridiculous *possible* circumstances.

None of which are at all relevant questions.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 12:26 pm
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