re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

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So they did call 911 I believe and they were told to stay away until police arrived and the operator continuously asked them to stop following him

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Yeah that is my point. They are rightfully going to prison.

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People are absolutely furious arrests haven’t been made.

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Rightfully so. Like I said, I don’t buy the black lives matter propaganda but this actually fits their narrative. If a couple of black guys did this to a white guy and they had video how quickly would there be arrests?

They have a point with this one.

they're going to the grand jury so i imagine an indictment is coming soon

i think the conflict/recusal issue is their one argument, as well as Covid's affects on forming grand juries

sometimes when you arrest a suspect, timelines start to run that require an indictment. on a potentially complicated issue like this, if you know they're going to be indicted when you can form a GJ, it's best not to give them a potential "out" by arresting them

i'm just spitballing here. dudes should have been arrested, even if it wasn't for murder, initially. agg battery or something similar would be an easy way to get a high bond and have them sit in jail until a GJ can indict them on some form of a murder charge

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i'm just spitballing here. dudes should have been arrested, even if it wasn't for murder, initially. agg battery or something similar

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Slo, I’m the statutes are obviously different in different states, but generally, does this entire event have to be taken as a whole or can a creative defense attorney try to break it up into 2 separate incidents (pre-confrontation and confrontation)? On the one hand, they clearly set this entire thing in motion and as soon as they grabbed their guns and got in the truck, they should have had a reasonable expectation that the endgame may end up with the loss of life—or whatever language is used to meet the standard of murder. (This is what I hope)

On the other hand, it is reasonable to say that at some point (the struggle for the gun), the aggressor lost his ground and did, in fact, fear for his own life. And if he did, could he somehow argue self-defense? Can it broken down into 2 separate incidents or do they have to view it as 1 long incident? Could the 1 aggressor plead to aggravated battery, false-imprisonment, terrorism, whatever for his actions pre-confrontation, but then have a legitimate self-defense argument for the actual confrontation? (This is not my hope)

And if it can be broken down for the one aggressor (whose gun was gone for by the victim), it seems that aggressor 1 and aggressor 2 have conflicting interests. As such, even though they are father/son and were together for most of the entire incident, would the state—or the defense for either aggressor—want separate trials?

Threads like this let everyone know who the idiots are around here

I heard about this story on the radio last night while driving. I immediately dismissed it as another "dindu" as tOT loves to say. Where the shooting was obviously justified but people don't care simply because of the races involved.

Looks like a couple of redneck baws saw a black guy running and decided he was up to no good because they don't recognize him. They brought along some firearms to assist them in apprehending the guy. Instead of calling the police, or even following him a lil bit and see where he goes, they fricking wait for him up ahead already with their guns drawn. Apparently the dad is trying to say they were attempting to do a citizen's arrest for the suspected burglar.
My 2 problems with that, who tf does a citizen's arrest anymore. Dont do that shite, it is stupid, and just plain dangerous over 90% of the time. Call the police, and allow them to handle it.
On top of that, they dont even know if the guy is an actual burglar, you can't try to arrest someone because someone burglarized some houses in the neighborhood, you are black and I dont know you, therefore you must be the burglar.

My fear is that defendents will try to say the shooters acted in self defense when the guy went for the guy and was fighting with the guy holding shotgun. I would argue that the man who fought back after he was ambushed in the street by 2 strangers pointing weapons at him was the one fearing for his life.

Maybe the guy was the one who burglarized in the neighborhood. Or perhaps he was just a guy trying to get some exercise like a normal human being, neither of those excuses the father and son's actions.

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Or perhaps he was just a guy trying to get some exercise

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I dont run often, but when I do I dont wear knee length khakis and a belt.....



Look, as of now the video looks very bad for the shooters. But its a piece in time video. I think people should wait just a little before they think its "open and shut"

People are mad at the rednecks for taking the law into their own hands and making a judge, jury, executioner decision on their own(which people should be)

However, those same posters seem to want to make the same type of decision themselves

even if he wasn't just jogging, the only defense the "rednecks" ever gave was that they saw him walking around a construction site

so even if their story is 100% legit, they still were not justified in anyway for their actions

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But its a piece in time video. I think people should wait just a little before they think its "open and shut"

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While I agree, I can't come to any scenario where a reasonable person could find this justifiable.