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re: All Star team fails because of Select aka Travel Baws
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Right, the two kinds of travel ball are glorified Rec while paying 10x to do the same thing
Or
Kids are playing 100+ games a year which is worse
thats bullshite, there is a happy medium.
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Sure I do, you just don't agree with it because you are deep in the game so you are using baseless conjecture and insults to try to bolster your arguement.
You've made several personal insults about me for no reason, while all I've done is give my opinion on the current situation.
Like I said, if you want to waste your money on travel ball, that's fine, its your money and your right. And it's not your fault the system has gotten this out of hand. I just think it's ridiculous that it's come to this.
deep in the game? oh yea my 10 and 8 year olds are sooo deep in the game with their 50-60 games a year.
and i didnt insult you other than to say you werent that good in high school....neither was i.
I did call you a dumbass because you, like most of this board, is fricking clueless when it comes to travel ball. Wasnt meant to be an insult as I actaully like you and take up for you all the time. But on this particular subject, you are a dumbass. Just like the other day I fully acknowledged you knew a frick ton more about taxes and accounting when you corrected me on somehting, you should do the same here.
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And it's not your fault the system has gotten this out of hand. I just think it's ridiculous that it's come to this.
your right. I was one of the biggest proponents of rec ball until i got to coach pitch and saw how bad it was getting. How terrible the coaching was, how shitty the parents were becoming etc. I wish is was where you could play 3 months out of the year and make a HS team...but its not. and being an ahtlete doesnt mean you can play baseball. its a much higher skill sport than some others. Doesnt really take anymore athletisism but its a skill level that is less generalist and much more specific.
i do want to say I do apprecaitte you putting your money where your mouth is with the volunteering to coach rec. I wish more people did because it wouldnt have driven so many away.
But you are way way out of line and absolutely do not know wtf you are talking about when it comes to be being a bad or overbearing parent....anything but.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:00 pm to back9Tiger
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Bingo.. the issue is that is has become an all year sport. It's way overdone. The guy that runs our team does this for a living. multiple teams all year long... how he gets paid. Has his own field and building with a weight room... nice field at that. Way over done.
Have a realistic season, maybe some summer ball, move on. Kid is practicing the week of Christmas.
bro i must be playing on the wrong organizations cause even knights in our area isnt like this at all lol
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:01 pm to 777Tiger
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have a friend I grew up with that was cut from the 7th and 8th grade basketball team, he went on to be on a hs state championship team, four year starter in college, is in the La sports hall of fame, never played anything outside of school but pickup games
I think that's the point of contention by some.. You either have it, or you don't... And no matter how many lessons you have or teams or tournaments you're involved with, you will only reach a certain level.. Where the kid that has a natural ability will always be better.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:03 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I think that's the point of contention by some.. You either have it, or you don't... And no matter how many lessons you have or teams or tournaments you're involved with, you will only reach a certain level.. Where the kid that has a natural ability will always be better.
bingo! thread dismissed
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I know this is the O-T where we are all ballers, but the idea of "it's only 1K plus uniforms" cracks me up.
We have kids in our rec ball league that can't afford the $55 registration fee, that need fee waivers, or need to pay it in installments.
This is exactly the thing. All the families who can pay 1K or 2K or whatever run to travel ball, so they don't have to associate with the poors.
well yea...you ever dealt with those kind of people? i hate it and have done plenty of volunteering.
not my fault they made poor life decisions. Im sure plenty of teachers growing up told them to pay attention in school or they would be poor. They failed to take the warning. frick em, thats their fault.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
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But Jamal gonna get a scholarship before Breighxdynnnxxx does
Hate to break it to you, but Jamal is playing travel ball too.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:04 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I think that's the point of contention by some.. You either have it, or you don't... And no matter how many lessons you have or teams or tournaments you're involved with, you will only reach a certain level.. Where the kid that has a natural ability will always be better.
usually the most athletic are that because they reached puberty earlier and have become men amongst boys. Strength training early is changing that somewhat.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:04 pm to JDPndahizzy
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And no matter how many lessons you have or teams or tournaments you're involved with, you will only reach a certain level..
An what if HS is the highest level the kid wants to reach then move on and get higher education degrees?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:05 pm to lsu777
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you ever dealt with those kind of people
Because people who can pay for stuff are automatically better to deal with?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:05 pm to lsu777
Just telling you how it is with this team. If you choose not to believe it, that's on you.
If it wasn't like that, I would not be on here making any statements.
If it wasn't like that, I would not be on here making any statements.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:05 pm to lsu777
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and i didnt insult you other than to say you werent that good in high school..
Yes you did, but besides the point
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I did call you a dumbass because you, like most of this board, is fricking clueless when it comes to travel ball.
I played it for a decade, not all that long ago.
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I was one of the biggest proponents of rec ball until i got to coach pitch and saw how bad it was getting. How terrible the coaching was, how shitty the parents were becoming etc.
That's the point, if you took all the kids around Lake Charles and put them back in the Rec league, it would be fine and the competition would be enough. And guess what, then the best kids would make the all star team and go play the other best teams. Just like I did when I was a kid.
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I wish is was where you could play 3 months out of the year and make a HS team...but its not.
This is an absurd take dude. There's guys that don't play football until their junior year of high school and 5 years later are first round draft picks in the NFL. Yes, baseball is a little different in that it's more of a skill based sport, but an incredible athlete can play 20 Rec games and year and all stars and still he a really good high school player. People did it for decades just fine.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:06 pm to tgrbaitn08
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An what if HS is the highest level the kid wants to reach then move on and get higher education degrees?
I think that's perfectly normal... and probably what happens most.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:07 pm to RoscoeHarper
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Hate to break it to you, but Jamal is playing travel ball too.
Eeeew - thought the whole point was to not associate with that
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:10 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I think that's perfectly normal... and probably what happens most.
In my experience most people are realistic about that....I dont think every single parent that has kids playing travel ball or taking lessons really believe their kid is going to be drafted out of HS or play D1
sure some will keep chasing their dream and go to a JUCO or CC and keep trying to get on a D1 roster....but those kids are few and far between......I can tell you one thing...my kid isnt going play at some fricking JUCO or CC.....he'll finish HS and take his academic scholly money and continue his education at a respectable 4 year college then go from there....if he wants to try and walk on at that school then that's on him
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:10 pm to GreenRockTiger
Poor lil Jamal...
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:11 pm to GreenRockTiger
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thought the whole point was to not associate with that
who you calling "that?"
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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There's guys that don't play football until their junior year of high school and 5 years later are first round draft picks in the NFL. Yes, baseball is a little different in that it's more of a skill based sport, but an incredible athlete can play 20 Rec games and year and all stars and still he a really good high school player. People did it for decades just fine
Apples and oranges. You can't start baseball in high school no matter what type of athlete you are and catch up.
And what people did decades ago has nothing to do with today. The fact is you are likely not even suiting up for the HS team if you didn't play some level of competitive ball. And that is not being played in any rec league I know of.
Just FYI I am in Oklahoma and the scene here seems to be similar to Louisiana.
My oldest kid is 14 and playing for the 9th grade summer team at his HS (6A, highest classification in OK). There were zero rec ball players that made the team.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:13 pm to tgrbaitn08
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In my experience most people are realistic about that....I don't think every single parent that has kids playing travel ball or taking lessons really believe their kid is going to be drafted out of HS or play D1
My HS coach told us one day about the 1% rule... 1% of HS athletes will play college sports, 1% of college athletes will play professional.. It's not exact science but it's pretty close and I think most parents and athletes accept that.. hopefully...
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:14 pm to 777Tiger
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who you calling "that?"
The ‘poors’
You know - the ones that can’t do $1K plus uniforms
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:15 pm to tgrbaitn08
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can tell you one thing...my kid isnt going play at some fricking JUCO or CC
Never say never. Plenty of players from LSUE and Delgado get scholarships. Not criticizing your thoughts on what's best for your son, but juco can absolutely be a positive way to continue baseball and work towards a degree.
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