re: All Star team fails because of Select aka Travel Baws

shite..1 at bat can produce 3 runs

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1 at bat can produce 3 runs

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forget which major leaguer said this but a coach was telling him as he was going to bat to try to get in scoring position, he said "when I'm at the plate I am in scoring position"

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neither of us would make a high level HS team now a days without putting in twice the work we did, including private lessons and travel.

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That's just not true dude. Plenty of professional athletes were doing all this bullshite.


You are making this some sort of personal liberty arguement, which is stupid. If you want to waste your money for your kid to get hitting lessons that's fine. But it's ruining the mission of youth sports and not helping the kids out at all. Just let them fricking play baseball in the summer. Football in the fall and basketball in the winter like kids have done since the beggining of time. ACL tears and Tommy John surgeries have risen exponentially since all this specialization started and the same players that would have been good before are good now. A 14 year old getting his elbow cut on because he threw 100 pitches a weekend for 5 years is fricking ridiculous.

And if you think Mike Trout would need travel ball and private lessons and all that shite to be the best baseball player in the game there's no reasoning with you. These Dominican guys dominate the Major Leagues growing up with broom sticks and rocks not knowing when their next real meal is going to be.


You are the problem with how kids are being raised now, and it's sad

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So you're just paying 10x to play glorified Dixie youth for no reason.

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I shouldnt honor with a response. But I will tell you this, you have no idea. The money you keep bringing up is a non issue. I dont think about it at all.

2.) If my boy played Dixie in the position he is now I doubt he sees a pitch worth hitting but 1-2 times per week for 8 weeks. That is 16 driveable pitches, off of kids throwing 50-55. In the last tournament the slowest pitch he saw was about 62, the most velo was about 72. They hit spots, they have changes and breaking pitches. He will see plenty to hit, but he better be ready. Also defensively, the ball is hit hard ALOT, in Dixie you can sit in left field and field about 8 balls a year, hell, some games they wear an outfield out.

Those are reasons.

3.) He plays with a group that is pretty much the same since he is 8 years old.

4.) Socially he has made friends all over the State. These majors guys have been beating up on each other for three years now. Most of them enjoy each other and pick up on competitors teams.

IF I could do all that more locally I would tell him no to travel. But it isnt even a choice that could be made.

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That's the issue, upper middle class parents who will contribute less to retirement to get Timmy hitting lessons made travel ball the only decent playable league, and little Timmy still sucks. All because some kid in Timmys class, whose parents couldn't afford those things, has God given ability making Timmys parents jealous.

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You really may have some type of mental issue. First, these things just dont happen. Hell, even most REALLY good players dont take many lessons. Yes, some do, but it really isnt that often.

I dont know of one set of parents that does it because they were jealous, that is just non sense. Yes, some are more frugal than others on trips, but you dont know the difference in families at the ball parks.

You may have some issues you are projecting.

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Yes, league youth baseball is almost now unplayable because the only kids left come from some kind of bad background. That's the issue, upper middle class parents who will contribute less to retirement to get Timmy hitting lessons made travel ball the only decent playable league, and little Timmy still sucks. All because some kid in Timmys class, whose parents couldn't afford those things, has God given ability making Timmys parents jealous.

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Dude, you are projecting some of your own trumped up dreamed up issues into this thing. There just isnt that much drama, or lessons, or time, or anything else. It is kids playing baseball. Jesus Christ.

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My kids don’t play organized sports - we do other things - but if one of my kids had wanted to or wants to - I would let them play

It’s good for these kids to play sports and spend the time with their parents

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It's one thing for kids to play sports recreationally, it's another thing to obsess over it and spend multiple nights per week at the field, and then weekends on top of that.

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Mike Trout would need travel ball and private lessons

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he played Cal Ripkin/ Babe Ruth baseball...Bryce Harper spent 2 weeks straight in Cooperstown as a 12 year old...they both played travel style/tournament baseball.

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sure they can

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I’m just pointing out you need a third base runner who’s status is conveniently unmentioned.

Did Billy play travel ball?

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But it's ruining the mission of youth sports and not helping the kids out at all. Just let them fricking play baseball in the summer. Football in the fall and basketball in the winter like kids have done since the beggining of time.

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This is "normal" so many people overdo it.