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re: All Star team fails because of Select aka Travel Baws
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:05 pm to lsu777
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:05 pm to lsu777
quote:Not in my experience. Every All Star team from this area that tries to stick together and travel has been a AAA or Majors team. Even now, i would put our 10u All Star squad up against AA teams and expect them to win tournaments.
but i find the 10u AA teams to be expontentially better than the rec all star teams. way way better.
I have one in Rec and one on a Majors team. So I see both sides, we still have some very good players in our Dixie league. Not deep but the top 2 or so on each team are good.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:06 pm to Chad504boy
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are you really comparing times of 25-30 years ago?
doesn't really matter, good athletes are gonna good athlete, all those lessons, $600 bats, and tournaments don't really factor in that much when it comes a person with natural athletic abilities
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:06 pm to 777Tiger
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what?? no travel ball? how the hell did he do that?
Shocking!..
He played with the Belle Bros in Dixie league, before them migrated over to Huntington. Joey was actually an NHS student and Eagle Scout. Bright kids.
Their dad was my Freshmen football coach.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You're spending probably more than 10k a year for your kid to play fricking baseball dude.
and? If someone can afford why does it matter?
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That shite ain't that important.
nobody said it was. I dont take this serious, i dont play on a team that plays more than 50-60 games which is not much more than rec season plus the 2 all star tournaments.
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I loved playing as a kid and some of the guys I played with in tball are still my friends, but your fascination with a bunch of kids who's ball haven't even dropped traveling around with thousands of dollars worth of equipment is what is wrong with youth sports.
so because i can afford my kid to have the best suddenly that is what is wrong with youth sports? my kids have a nice glove and a nice bat, same thing i had as a kid.
there isnt anything wrong with youth sports. the problem is people who made poor life decisions bitching about the cost of stuff. The onyl thing wrong with travel ball is the parents that are left behind bitching about it and those that make poor decisions on the teams they join and those trying to live through their kids.
I am doing known of those and am very careful about the coaches i let me kids play for. Less so about sports and more so I want them to be around good people as I know the chance to go play after hs is slim and matters nada.
Them playing baseball is about a couple things
1) learngin to compete and learning that hard work=success
2) learnign to work within the constraints of a team enviorment and how to be a good team mate
3) have fun and make friends
some other things too but dont get it twisted and think that I am living through my kids or we play some outragous amount of games etc. I support them in whatever they want to do.
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I made 2 errors in 3 years in centerfield and hit over 400 my senior year. They weren't good schools and I know I wasn't that good in the grand scheme of things but to say I never played. Not only did I play, I was actually pretty good for a high school player.
sure you were hitting lasers with that 130lbs of bodyweight behind the ball. and Im not being a dick, im sure you played. but i can realistically say with almsot 100% certainty you were about as good as I was in HS and that wasnt very good. and neither of us would even make the team now a days at the big schools. 135 lbs will not cut it. neither would my 170 or so, not on the good teams atleast. Go watch the state championship games and you will see.
Hell go watch a 13u majors tourney and you will see.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the Belle Bros
I heard the one that didn't play for LSU was a pretty fair athlete too
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:10 pm to Epic Cajun
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This is what I don't understand. I get that playing sports helps develop character, but you don't have to waste your entire fricking life away doing dumbass travel ball nonsense, because there is a pretty damn good chance that you're kid isn't even making a D-1 team.
jesus its like some of yall do not understand....some of the kids absolutely love baseball and want to play travel and ask too and ask to do lessons etc.
nobody gives a frick about the shitty d1 baseball schollies that dont cover shite.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:10 pm to tigerfoot
I seriously do not get the hatred for travel ball on this board. I think it all depends on where you live, where i live our rec ball teams are absolute shite. With that being said there are plenty travel teams that are terrible too which is usually the kids that get cut from the good teams so their dads make a new team. My son plays travel ball bc he WANTS to not bc i make him. We also find time to play flag football,tackle football and basketball.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:11 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:If you think 95% not making it is a good chance then yeah.
because there is a pretty damn good chance that you're kid isn't even making a D-1 team.
Yes travel ball can be busy from April thru May. But this notion of 7 day a week commitments and being on the road every weekend is pretty off base. We wrap up next week with him, he will prob not sniff a glove till maybe the fall. And then it would be for some arm stuff and maybe maybe one tournament
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:12 pm to WHO_DAT_SP2
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where i live our rec ball teams are absolute shite.
Because of travel ball.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:12 pm to lsu777
quote:I'm just glad I have a daughter, I couldn't imagine wasting my life away at a ball park
jesus its like some of yall do not understand....some of the kids absolutely love baseball and want to play travel and ask too and ask to do lessons etc.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to lsu777
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so because i can afford my kid to have the best suddenly that is what is wrong with youth sports?
No, people have been able to afford it since the beggining of time. Only in the last 15 or 20 years has this have to play travel ball, have to pay $250 a week for private lessons shite been a thing. Youth sports aren't meant to be professional sports, 99% of the kids aren't very good either way, no matter how many lessons daddy buys them from the former AA players.
And guess what, Mike Trout is making it to the show whether he plays Dixie or USSA.
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sure you were hitting lasers with that 130lbs of bodyweight behind the ball. and Im not being a dick, im sure you played. but i can realistically say with almsot 100% certainty you were about as good as I was in HS and that wasnt very good.
I only hit one dinger my senior year :( against a trash team throwing essentially BP. But I could put the bat on the ball and run. Nice amount of doubles. Lefty playing centerfield, hitting leadoff. Oldschool.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to WHO_DAT_SP2
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I seriously do not get the hatred for travel ball on this board. I think it all depends on where you live, where i live our rec ball teams are absolute shite. With that being said there are plenty travel teams that are terrible too which is usually the kids that get cut from the good teams so their dads make a new team. My son plays travel ball bc he WANTS to not bc i make him. We also find time to play flag football,tackle football and basketball.
this is pretty much exact situation i am in.
but i find most on here that hate travel ball fall into 3 catagories
#1) dont have kids and cant fathom giving up weekends and spending money on something their kid likes
#2) are poor and cant afford it, even though plenty of teams that are only 1k plus uniforms. Get a used bat and glove. its not that expensive. Most tournies are within driving distance
#3) didnt play sports or dont have kids that play sports and cant fathom why a kid would want to play and travel so they assume its the parent making them. Which i find to be not the case 99% of the time.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:14 pm to lsu777
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.some of the kids absolutely love baseball and want to play travel and ask too and ask to do lessons etc.
Some kids love space and want to be astronauts... Your point?
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nobody gives a frick about the shitty d1 baseball schollies that dont cover shite.
That's not true, at all
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:15 pm to Epic Cajun
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I have a daughter,
I have one daughter(no pics,) that played travel sb, I was so glad when that shite was over, watching girls play sb is right up there with watching paint dry, or getting a root canal with no anesthesia
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:18 pm to Epic Cajun
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you don't have to waste your entire fricking life away doing dumbass travel ball nonsense
My kids don’t play organized sports - we do other things - but if one of my kids had wanted to or wants to - I would let them play
It’s good for these kids to play sports and spend the time with their parents - yeah - plenty of shitty people out there but most are trying their best to provide the best childhood experience for their kids - the biggest regrets are the things you didn’t do
My brother and his son spend a lot of time together bc of travel ball - and that’s good bc it keeps my nephew away from his shitty mother
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:19 pm to tigerfoot
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We wrap up next week with him, he will prob not sniff a glove till maybe the fall. And then it would be for some arm stuff and maybe maybe one tournament
So you're just paying 10x to play glorified Dixie youth for no reason.
Yes, league youth baseball is almost now unplayable because the only kids left come from some kind of bad background. That's the issue, upper middle class parents who will contribute less to retirement to get Timmy hitting lessons made travel ball the only decent playable league, and little Timmy still sucks. All because some kid in Timmys class, whose parents couldn't afford those things, has God given ability making Timmys parents jealous.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:20 pm to GreenRockTiger
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My brother and his son spend a lot of time together bc of travel ball - and that’s good bc it keeps my nephew away from his shitty mother
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:22 pm to LSU9102
You’re story doesn’t make sense.
2 at bats cannot produce 3 runs. So some other at bats needed to be involved.
So the coaches kid, who was select, got to third. So it sounds like A select kid did something to help the team.
Sounds like if the coach didn’t play his kid he wouldn’t have someone on Third to be left stranded.
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Get 2 at bats that produce 3 runs by non select players.
2 at bats cannot produce 3 runs. So some other at bats needed to be involved.
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3 straight Select aka travel baws leave Coach’s kid that’s Select standing next to him on 3rd.
So the coaches kid, who was select, got to third. So it sounds like A select kid did something to help the team.
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If they would have just played the better players and not their kids.
Sounds like if the coach didn’t play his kid he wouldn’t have someone on Third to be left stranded.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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No, people have been able to afford it since the beggining of time. Only in the last 15 or 20 years has this have to play travel ball, have to pay $250 a week for private lessons shite been a thing. Youth sports aren't meant to be professional sports, 99% of the kids aren't very good either way, no matter how many lessons daddy buys them from the former AA players.
nobody is spending 250 a week on lessons but even if they did....why does this irk the OT so much and why is it thier business? Especially if the kid is asking to go?
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Youth sports aren't meant to be professional sports
no shite, but each kid shold work his arse off to become the best he can be.
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99% of the kids aren't very good either way, no matter how many lessons daddy buys them from the former AA players.
most kids are only trying to be good enough to play and eventualyl start in HS
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And guess what, Mike Trout is making it to the show whether he plays Dixie or USSA.
maybe, but if he played dixie, never developed his skill and never trained....he isnt. mike trout is mike trout because he has god given talent and then put the work in to harness that talent. Not everyone has the talent and everyone that has the talent doesnt end up like mike trout. Understand he is good because he has talent and outworks people, not just talent.
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I only hit one dinger my senior year :( against a trash team throwing essentially BP. But I could put the bat on the ball and run. Nice amount of doubles. Lefty playing centerfield, hitting leadoff. Oldschool.
so pretty much a mirror image of me, except i played 1st base.....news flash...i sucked and so did you. neither of us would make a high level HS team now a days without putting in twice the work we did, including private lessons and travel.
Well we may make it, but not sniffing the field.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
All we would like is for our boy to play high school to keep him occupied (though you have plenty to choose from outside of just baseball).
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